2012 tOSU Recruiting Discussion

[ant80]

i think it's a similar, if not identical rule to what the big 10 does with 25 per year with a certain number of early enrollees. so yes, it will definitely shake things up down in SEC land.

The Big10 actually banned oversigning. The operative word in the above article is restricts. I'd love to know how that's different from the Big10 from anyone who's closely studied the law.

 

[Bill Lucas]

From the above article...Never heard this one. Can someone confirm this? Basically, is it a hard cap like in the Big10?

They're now limited to 28 per year. We'll see if the schools play by the rules.

 

[ScriptOhio]

For whatever reason there seems to be a lot of "soft verbals" this year.

 

[Jdadams01]

For whatever reason there seems to be a lot of "soft verbals" this year.

Seems like there is a lot of coaching turnover right now and that's part of it. Also though, an article on ESPN did make a decent point today. Recruits are better informed then ever. They can fact check almost anything a coach tells them. Also, a lot of top recruits seem to realize the business aspect.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/r...d/7424289/recruiting-no-longer-business-usual

 

[kn1f3party]

I expect it to only get worse in the information age.

 

[Buckeye doc]

I found this article that considers possible high level causes for recent SEC success to be interesting:
http://www.omaha.com/article/20111231/SPORTS/712319797

In particular, I found section 5 (roughly "defense wins championships") to be encouraging, since Urb has had so much success so far recruiting defensive players.

And when I think about John Cooper's age old point of tOSU having no competing universities in the huge state of Ohio (once Dantonio left Cincy) and about the prospecting of owning PA (with PSU and Pitt in apparent trouble) with trouble in at Indiana and Illinois, then to me it seems that Urb has outflanked the SEC. Daydreams of the board game "risk" float through my head, with new armies replenishing tOSU from the entire midwest.

The final nail in the coffin will be Urb defeating tSUN on the field, to keep them out of our recruiting back yard.

I just skimmed the article but saw no reference to how big of an effect buying players for $180,000 has had for the SEC.

 

[pnuts34]

I expect it to only get worse in the information age.

Totally agree, technology has allowed players a different viewpoint on yhr recruiting process. No longer do many of the top players go to schools based off of being a fan. Coaching changes, offensive style, depth chart, even uniforms can sway kids minds these days. And then throw in twitter and Facebook

 

[wadc45]

Free Rivals - M-E-Y-E-R is often the first name in recruiting

1/13

David Fox
Rivals.com Football Recruiting

The round trip from Columbus, Ohio, to Hershey, Pa., is about 860 miles or roughly enough to make an impression on Pennsylvania's top recruit.

In mid-December, weeks after Urban Meyer was introduced as Ohio State's head coach, Meyer and assistants Luke Fickell and Mike Vrabel traveled to Hershey for a state championship game involving defensive end Noah Spence of Harrisburg Bishop McDevitt.

A nice gesture, but a grandiose one considering Spence would be on Ohio State's campus the following day for an official visit. Spence committed by the end of that visit.

That's the kind of recruiting edge Ohio State wanted when it hired Meyer in late November to replace Jim Tressel, who resigned in May amid an NCAA investigation. A bowl ban and scholarship limits will sting the program, but the Buckeyes don't expect to lose any ground on the recruiting trail.

"[Meyer] likes the thought of winning, and every recruiting battle is like another game," said Temple defensive coordinator Chuck Heater, who has served on coaching staffs with Meyer since the mid-1980s at Ohio State. "You win or you lose; you have strategy and effort. If you win you feel tremendous, and if you lose you feel lousy. Every recruiting battle was the same way."

Continued...

 

[Oh8ch]

I have updated the scholarship breakdown by class for 2012. I have not added the incoming Frosh yet. Need any help with position changes, losses or redshirts I may have missed.


http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...2-scholarship-breakdown-year.html#post2089135

 

[MaxBuck]

You're missing a couple current scholarship players. Jaamal Berry is one; haven't found the other yet.

 

[Oh8ch]

Based on info in the Berry thread I did not include him. He is not expected to return.

 

[Muck]

You're missing a couple current scholarship players. Jaamal Berry is one; haven't found the other yet.

Cash?

Probably not listed for the same reason as Berry.

 

[79Redmen]

Scholarship count

My efforts to quantify the number of scholarships which will be available, seems way out of line with the others numbers. There will be additional players leaving, but how it might be possible to get the 5 to 7 more players that some are suggesting, is difficult to understand.

 

[BearBuck27]

I think we are sitting right at 82, although I could be wrong. I think there's going to be 3-4 transfers. There's another possibility of a med hardship, with certain guys taking visits and rumored academic trouble, I don't think its out of the realm of possibility to see someone committed not in this class on signing day. So that right there is 5 or 6 more guys in this class. I think Urban Meyer knows what's going on.

 

[MaxBuck]

My efforts to quantify the number of scholarships available, seems way out of line with the others numbers. I know there will be additional players leaving, but I cannot imagine how they get to the 5 to 7 more players that some are suggesting.

Your numbers and chart look correct to me.