2012 tOSU Recruiting Discussion

[Bestbuck36]

If we get 3 or 4 guys to enroll early will that help us eliminate any burden of the 3 schollie loss this year and still allow us to get all of these coveted guys in the fold?

I understand it will still count and be against our 82 total but for the guys we're trying to wedge in this year it would seem like a very viable option, if the kids qualify and would want to come in early. IMO, it will be easier to deal with the -3 from an entire year's standpoint of recruiting than it will these last 2 months. Going in with a plan of only signing so many to get in under the schollie limit will be easier going forward for sure.

 

[OUatl]

powell, perry, dunn are for sure and i know roberts said he was enrolling early. Also, someone said boren for sure. Thats's 3 for sure and 5 very possible.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Five additional commits from among the big targets we still have on our board would put this class in the top 3 nationally.

 

[Buckeye737]

Five additional commits from among the big targets we still have on our board would put this class in the top 3 nationally.

Which is awesome with where it looked like this class would end up 6 months ago. As bummed as I am about next year's bowl ban, 6 months ago I was worried how a 1 or 2 year ban would affect recruiting, and that's going to be a non-issue.

 

[korchiki]

Is it appropriate to ask who everyone would prefer if they could have only one of Neal or Caleb?

I think they are totally different players so I would prefer Neal because he fits a role that current team doesn't have much of while Caleb seems to be more in the same role as Spencer and Smith as well as fellow recruit Thomas

Want Neal. Caleb is nice but love the explosion and shiftiness of Neal.

 

[Oh8ch]

If we get 3 or 4 guys to enroll early will that help us eliminate any burden of the 3 schollie loss this year and still allow us to get all of these coveted guys in the fold?

I understand it will still count and be against our 82 total but for the guys we're trying to wedge in this year it would seem like a very viable option, if the kids qualify and would want to come in early. IMO, it will be easier to deal with the -3 from an entire year's standpoint of recruiting than it will these last 2 months. Going in with a plan of only signing so many to get in under the schollie limit will be easier going forward for sure.

Maybe I am misunderstanding your point, but the the sanction effectively says that we can not have more than 82 on schollie at any time from the start of school in the fall until the end of the 2014-15 season. Bringing kids in early doesn't help with that.

 

[sflbuck]

Maybe I am misunderstanding your point, but the the sanction effectively says that we can not have more than 82 on schollie at any time from the start of school in the fall until the end of the 2014-15 season. Bringing kids in early doesn't help with that.

It is my understanding that all you have to be is at 82 (or 85 without reductions) at the beginning of fall camp.

 

[Oh8ch]

It is my understanding that all you have to be is at 82 (or 85 without reductions) at the beginning of fall camp.

And not go above 82 at any time during the year.

 

[NFBuck]

Want Neal. Caleb is nice but love the explosion and shiftiness of Neal.

Neal is a freak and would be great in Meyer's system.

 

[calibuck]

Glad someone smarter than me has it figured out. Sounds good. 82 for the next three years doesn't seem so terrible given the amount of talent that already exists on the roster. Next year will be a 'pick and choose' to fill in the gaps (we all have our ideas on what they are). USC is up there in the ratings, as they are being very selective with whom they offer, so next year will be another feast for outside colleges on Ohio talent. Oh well, cannot take them all, and all Ohio kids deserve a D-1 schollie (my opinion).

I see who I want, and of course those are the ones I hope we get, all the the intent of making the Buckeyes a stronger team. You gotta know that Urban's history indicates that he will weed out those who do not fit his mold, or whatever he uses to judge college players by. Either a non-renewal of their annual scholarship or minimal minutes will be the indication to the player. I do hope that he honors all of the verbals that have committed to OSU, rather than 'suggest' that they look elsewhere. At the end of the day, it is the walk-ons (who Tress and predecessors gave one-year schollies to) that will suffer, as those were the 'flex' that existed.


:gobucks3::gobucks4:

 

[thatBuckeyeguy]

Maybe I am misunderstanding your point, but the the sanction effectively says that we can not have more than 82 on schollie at any time from the start of school in the fall until the end of the 2014-15 season. Bringing kids in early doesn't help with that.

From what I understand and know to be true. Any early enrolee this year will go upon last years numbers. And I believe we have 6 open. So as long as we stay below 85 up to the beginning of fall practice this year we are good. As of the first day of fall practice 2012 thru to signing day 2015 we have to be at 82. Signing day of 2015 we can have up to 85 on scholly. And from there forward the same. But form the beginning of fall practice 2012 to signing day 2015 we can not go above 82 ever.

As for Urbs weeding out the players that dont fit his criteria. I would believe fully that if they choose to stay and uphold their end of the bargain thru the sanctions and all and not transfer now. He will honor the scholarship and not send anyone on their way. Will they play I would say not but how is that any different than anywhere else? The best play if you think there are greener pastures you are more than welcome to transfer to those pastures. Just sayin. LOL

Go Bucks

 

[Oh8ch]

From what I understand and know to be true. Any early enrolee this year will go upon last years numbers. And I believe we have 6 open. So as long as we stay below 85 up to the beginning of fall practice this year we are good. As of the first day of fall practice 2012 thru to signing day 2015 we have to be at 82. Signing day of 2015 we can have up to 85 on scholly. And from there forward the same. But form the beginning of fall practice 2012 to signing day 2015 we can not go above 82 ever.

As for Urbs weeding out the players that dont fit his criteria. I would believe fully that if they choose to stay and uphold their end of the bargain thru the sanctions and all and not transfer now. He will honor the scholarship and not send anyone on their way. Will they play I would say not but how is that any different than anywhere else? The best play if you think there are greener pastures you are more than welcome to transfer to those pastures. Just sayin. LOL

Go Bucks

Correct. So if the suggestion is that we could go above 82 in February and get back under via summer departures that is correct. If this is based on known plans of kids to transfer I am all for it. If it is based on SEC type hazing (picture the movie "One on One" for those old enough) of the existing players - not so much.

In either case whether a kid comes in as part of next years class or enrolls early and comes in under last years class is of no consequence in getting to 82 by the fall.

 

[MaxBuck]

If it is based on SEC type hazing (picture the movie "One on One" for those old enough) of the existing players - not so much.

Hazing? Of course that's not OK.

Pointing out the unlikelihood of playing time and assisting with finding an alternative program to transfer to that is more in keeping with a player's skill set? No problem with that approach at all.

 

[Oh8ch]

Hazing? Of course that's not OK.

Pointing out the unlikelihood of playing time and assisting with finding an alternative program to transfer to that is more in keeping with a player's skill set? No problem with that approach at all.

Agree 100%

 

[Muck]

(picture the movie "One on One" for those old enough) of the existing players - not so much.

You watched a Robbie Benson movie.