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mbama1
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brutus2002;1572637; said:
Do you even watch the games? Seriously. Graham is no doubt a great player, but the defensive line is not a joke. If anything the defensive line is probably the only legit unit of the defense. The linebackers have serious issues as does the secondary.
We will miss Brandon greatly as he is an amazing player, but my guess is that Craig Roh who checks in at around the 240's right now will probably be north of 250 or even close to 260 and start at Graham's spot next season.
brutus2002;1572637; said:
Losing Minor might prove tough, as he is a very powerful runner but Mike Shaw is very similar to Carlos Brown, and in fact I think he might actually be better right now. Carlos Brown is very limited as a runner, does not have the greatest vision or very good agility either. Great straight-line speed, but Shaw seems to have the agility that Brown is lacking and even better straight-line speed. Michigan will be just fine at RB, I think.
brutus2002;1572637; said:
Well, good thing we only lose 2 starting OL in Mark Ortmann and Dave Moosman. Which by the way neither one is our best lineman. Dave Molk is returning and he is by far our best lineman, as is Steve Schilling, who is by far our 2nd best lineman. Mark Hugye is a RS Soph who is in his first year starting, and he is returning as well. The Michigan OL should be a strength of the team next season. Moosman is the worst of the starting 5 of the OL right now, Ortmann is probably 3rd or 4th best.
brutus2002;1572637; said:
Brandon Graham, Stevie Brown, and Brandon Minor are the only major talent losses to graduation that I am seeing. I just don't see who "a lot of the most talented Wolverines leaving" are.
Mark Ortmann? Dave Moosman? Greg Mathews? Carlos Brown? Good role players and contributors, but not even close to being the most talented players at their respective positions on the roster.
brutus2002;1572637; said:
Nice to see that you have a crystal ball.
Can you tell me what stocks to buy while you are at?
brutus2002;1572637; said:
Yup, and everybody and their brother can see that with their own two eyes. Even the Michigan homers.
Devin Gardner is coming in the spring, and there is a great chance he plays better than Robinson and supplants him at the #2 spot. If that happens Robinson moves to another position, where his skills and talents will be put to much better use.
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And who on the roster has more pure WR talent than Greg Matthews? He snags those tough catches and even in the spread you need a strong handed possesion wide receiver. He would be the perfect "Avant" to someone's "Edwards" but the team is just not built that way anymore.
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mbama, just a warning, but brutus2002' hatred for UM runs as deep as anyone, so you might want to pick your battles there. 
And now you have no one to man the quick spot.
That and the fact that RBs is probably the easiest position to find talent as well as utilize inexperienced players.
It was supposed to be a strength of the team this season though, and I'm not sure that was the case.
I wouldn't count Warren as "back" at this point, particularly with his play so far.
Most talented? Maybe, but certainly not the best... had a decent frosh campaign, mailed it in as a soph (that wasn't just the injury), and has had a pretty good junior campaign. Jackson was a lot more consistent as a player at UM, imo.
Who contributes primarily as a blocker in this offense.
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mbama1;1573018; said:
I don't expect him to leave, but I wouldn't blame him in a draft without many surefire corners expected to come out. Same reason why I wouldn't be surprised if Chekwa of Ohio State comes out.
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mbama1;1573020; said:
How quickly I forget...been a while since I talked UM Wide Receivers...boards have been full of Tater Tot talk.
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I do. He was as unhappy as anyone last year, and next year will probably be another average year for the defense with the loss of Graham, and no suitable replacements for Ezeh or Mouton.Merih;1573022; said:
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Iowa sure helped things by throwing at him repetitively...which was stupid. Not that they can't complete a pass against him, he's not that good yet, but the other CB on the field is usually so much more vulnerable that it doesn't make sense to go at Donavan.
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Yeah that's what he's saying. No one on the roster can realistically take their jobs next season.
BTW I remember Ezeh being a VERY promising LB'er...what happened?
BTW I remember Ezeh being a VERY promising LB'er...what happened?
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I'm implying the only early impact LB in this class is probably Marvin Robinson, and he's probably better suited for the spinner position, at least during his first season on campus.mbama1;1573030; said:
Fitzgerald came in with a lot of fanfare but is struggling to hold off walkon LBs, Ezeh has been a liability for most of the year, and Mouton's effort and play leaves a lot to be desired (despite his natural talent).
I'm not sure UM will be much better on defense without a breakthrough player opposite Roh at DE & a different corps of LBs, whether they improve or are replaced.
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