martinss01
blissfully stupid
blueinfla;1494930; said:This is a serious question. I'm not flaming/trolling. Hasn't OSU put more players into the NFL than any other program this decade? The reason I bring this up is because Lloyd and UM were famous for this. They put talent in the NFL, but didn't accomplish much in college outside of the big ten. I hated that about UM. UM didn't develop their talent. I'm not saying OSU isn't developing their talent. Something is just not adding up. I'm curious as to what you level-headed buckeye fans have to say about this.
if something isn't adding up its because your math is off. since 2000 tOSU has accounted for 5 big 10 championships including 4 straight and 3 nc births with 1 win. people keep whining about the "big game" losses and the nc losses. first off, the only teams we have lost to either played in bcs games and or won there conference. second, the 2 nc losses were 1 part bad timing and 1 part overachieving.
in 06/07 we had one of the best offenses in tOSU history. what we didn't have was a defense. why? because very literally the ENTIRE defense from the previous year was playing in the nfl. we lost 9 starters to nfl teams. by the end of the year that d was extremely young and very gimpy. when our offense couldn't put points on the board in bunches, the game was affectively over. tressel and his staff were off 1 year on recruiting classes. just imagine 06/07 troy smith, tedd ginn, gonzo, jenkins, pittman, and beanie, with 05/06 aj hawk, bobby carpenter, ashton yobouty, donte whitner, nate salley, and santonio holmes.
07/08. tOSU was picked to finish 3rd IN THE BIG 10. not the nation, in our conference. it was a team full of sophomores and juniors and was supposed to be the year everyone in the big 10 got some payback. well, the fighting zookers got it done but thats about it. and in reality, any other year not 07 loosing to illi would have absolutely 100% kept tOSU out of the nc. but when every other top 5 team pulled a choke job we got the nod not because we deserved it, but because everyone else deserved it less. fact is, lsu was a better team. period. they were senior laden and extremely talented. we had equal if not slightly better talent, but we didn't have the maturity and it showed. when the momentum swung our way lsu held their cool. when it sung theirs... we didn't. what stuck out most to me from that game was lsu's first drive of the second half. game was still very much in doubt and all we needed was the ball. in the same drive we had a personal foul roughing the kicker on a punt and a personal foul roughing the passer on a 3rd and 25+ that was thrown 2 rows deep into the stands.
thats pretty much it in a nutshell
in 05 the d peaked.
in 06 the o peaked.
in 07 the rest of the country found ways to suck more than us.
the coaching staff was so very close to getting the stars to align. so close, and yet so far away.
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