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Off the UM free boards. This was deleated in about 2 min from Stadium and Main. If anyone wants a copy PM me. It is some descent reading even though it is thru M&B glasses.

Hello UM fans
Now that recruiting is over we can not concentrate on existing team.
Team is 2 weeks into off-season workouts. Keep in mind that in the past
3 years workouts until the 2nd week of February were basically
voluntary---this team is light years ahead in terms of conditioning.
Some random observations:
1) Are the workouts tougher than in past years? I have been to 2
workouts-one on a Tues. and one on a Wed. Monday, Wednesday, and
Fridays are basically lifting days-while Tues. and Thurs. are
conditioning and speed training days. It should be noted that even on
lifting days-the kids run. The overall workouts are longer, more
intense, more organized, (there is constant monitoring of every drill
and every player)--.

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I guess this guy thinks everyone on their team will be an all-american this year...GMAFB. The reason they are running is because on offense they will be running the option. Your linemen are gonna be in for a hell of a suprise. Those fatasses like Mitchell aren't gonna cut it running the option. Injuring players this early isn't gonna help Michigan whatsoever.

IMO RR is establishing a routine. Maybe he is trying to weed out the candyasses(probably).

He needs to recruit an entirely new offensive football team. He cannot run his offense with your current squad. Your Oline had problems last year and are in for a huge blow this year.

Speed and conditioning are great but talent at the end of the day means most. Michigans back 7 lost its 4 top players. The Dline is strong but lacks depth.

If Michigan loses less than 5 games it will be a successful season.
 
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brutus2002;1113600; said:
I guess this guy thinks everyone on their team will be an all-american this year...GMAFB. The reason they are running is because on offense they will be running the option. Your linemen are gonna be in for a hell of a suprise. Those fatasses like Mitchell aren't gonna cut it running the option. Injuring players this early isn't gonna help Michigan whatsoever.
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Um Mitchell quit the team before conditioning even started.
 
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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg.../864685-144.stm


Former WVU players chat with Chuck Finder
Thursday, March 13, 2008
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Returning to campus in the past few days to resume workouts for the NFL Draft and prepare for Thursday's Pro Day inside the Caperton Indoor Practice Facility, three former West Virginia Mountaineers -- receiver Darius Reynaud, cornerback Vaughn Rivers and tailback Steve Slaton -- sat down with the Post-Gazette and tackled a wide array of topics.
 
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Published Wednesday | March 12, 2008
Wolverines gear for major QB shift
BY MATT HAYES
THE SPORTING NEWS

Let me reintroduce a guy named Brad Lewis.

Once a career backup at West Virginia, he was a good teammate and a hard worker. An overachiever. Lewis was West Virginia's first quarterback under Rich Rodriguez in 2001, the first in Morgantown to control the now wildly popular spread option offense.

Why do we care about Brad Lewis, you ask? Because he's Steven Threet, that's why. And Justin Feagin, Rodriguez's first quarterback recruit at Michigan, is Rasheed Marshall.

Stay with me, folks.

Lewis didn't fit Rodriguez's spread option offense in 2001, just as Threet ? the leader of Michigan's quarterback competition this spring by default ? doesn't now. Threet is a classic pocket quarterback who has no business running the multiple scheme, but he's all Michigan has. For now, anyway.

In 2001, Lewis held things together while Marshall (then a freshman) learned the system ? and while Rodriguez learned to trust Marshall to take care of the ball and to manage a game. Marshall was the team's best quarterback by the end of 2001 and later had three productive seasons as the starter before some guy named Pat White arrived in the middle of the 2005 season to redefine the position.

No matter how Michigan's quarterback competition plays out this spring, the real question is how quickly Feagin picks up the offense in the fall and Threet hands over the keys. One more thing: West Virginia won three games in 2001. It's a process ? so don't expect miracles in Year 1.
 
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Read that article... and they should take away his ability to write news.

West Virginia in 2001 and Michigan in 2008 don't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentece.. one went 3-8 while the other will probably win 7-9 games and go to a bowl.
 
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I have some thoughts that I would like to get the "big 3's"(3-7,snipe,htm) comments on. I am a long way geographically from the UM-RR epicenter of activity, but still have some dealings with many casual UM, college football fans. Alot of these people think you have brought in a real top line world beater coach, and that the tide will turn instantly it the rivalry with Osu. I am not pointing this out because I think these guys have an uneducated opinion, that I don' happen to agree with. But because I wonder if there is a serious underestimation within the casual UM fanbase of how difficult a job it will be to point your big aircraft-carrier of a program in a different direction. I think you will be competitive next year in most games, wins and losses depending on how the team develops. But if things come along slowly, do you feel that your non-hardcore fanbase is prepared for a possible 5-6 win season? I would enjoy your perspective and appreciate your info and contributions to this board.
 
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MONTbigBuck;1116760; said:
I have some thoughts that I would like to get the "big 3's"(3-7,snipe,htm) comments on. I am a long way geographically from the UM-RR epicenter of activity, but still have some dealings with many casual UM, college football fans. Alot of these people think you have brought in a real top line world beater coach, and that the tide will turn instantly it the rivalry with Osu. I am not pointing this out because I think these guys have an uneducated opinion, that I don' happen to agree with. But because I wonder if there is a serious underestimation within the casual UM fanbase of how difficult a job it will be to point your big aircraft-carrier of a program in a different direction. I think you will be competitive next year in most games, wins and losses depending on how the team develops. But if things come along slowly, do you feel that your non-hardcore fanbase is prepared for a possible 5-6 win season? I would enjoy your perspective and appreciate your info and contributions to this board.
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No. Say Michigan finishes 5-7 next year? Honestly I think you will see a fair amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth. Probably not too many calls to fire RR, but let's be honest, 5 wins? That's Bump Elliott territory, as in, there hasn't been below 6 wins, or a losing record, since 1967.

Prediction is that a lot of "casual" U-M fans will decide RR is on a short leash with them if he wins only 5 games. Big difference between 5 and 6 though....6 is a bowl game. We're Michigan. Someone will invite us. Very arrogant-sounding, but true. 6 is a crappy season, but going to a bowl game (and hopefully winning it) will probably keep patience alive. 5 is no bowl game, and Michigan hasn't failed to go to a bowl since the Rose Bowl Or No Bowl days, and no, I doubt anyone's contemplating that.

By the way, more dangerous than a 6-win season is an 8- or 9- win season that doesn't include a win over OSU. A 6 win season that ends in the Motor City Bowl will have more people thinking, OK, RR just needed some time, we didn't really have a good team and we lost to OSU because it takes a little time to get this thing straightened out. Win 9 and go to the Citrus Bowl and lose to Ohio State anyway? That would probably trigger an attitude (among some) of, "hell, Lloyd Carr and Ryan Mallett could have done that, but that's why they left. Where's the improvement we're paying for?"
 
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HailToMichigan;1116767; said:
No. Say Michigan finishes 5-7 next year? Honestly I think you will see a fair amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth. Probably not too many calls to fire RR, but let's be honest, 5 wins?
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I think you've been living under a rock :wink: Tis the nature of fandom these days...

Interesting points about more wins (sans OSU) being a bad thing. Not sure that will be the reaction across the board, but is very intriguing food for thought.
 
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Another top dual-threat QB gone from Michigan's recruiting board... and not from Pittsburgh. Lots of hope placed in Tate Forcier's moving forward...

Rivals $

6-1 195 lb Tajh Boyd chooses WVU over Tenn, BC, Mich, MD, UVA, VT (all offered).

Will VTech now turn up the heat even more on local star dual-threat Kevin Newsome, another UM target?

Also, #1 WR, 6th overall prospect (scout), Logan Heastie also committed to WVU today over USC, UF, etc. Someone tell WVU they are supposed to dwindle without RR, not recruit better :p
 
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University of Michigan athletes steered to professor
by Jim Carty, John Heuser, Nathan Fenno | The Ann Arbor News
Sunday March 16, 2008, 12:05 AM
First in a four-day series

Michigan athletes described being steered to Hagen's courses by their athletic department academic counselors and, in some cases, earning three or four credits for meeting with Hagen for as little as 15 minutes every two weeks
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"He was used as a safety net," a former employee said. "... The Hagen thing wasn't a secret. One of the first options, probably the first option always ... was John Hagen - 'See if we can get John to take another.' "
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University of Michigan athletes steered to professor University of Michigan Academics and Athletics - MLive.com
 
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