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ChisAto
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brutus2002;1087895; said:
I understand where you guys are coming from. It annoys me to no end when I see Michigan fans acting like pompous assholes and I bet its the same on the other side. I may hate Ohio State, but I respect them.
Most rational Michigan fans have given up on Pryor. We believe he's down to OSU and PSU. On Tuesday night he was all ready to sign to OSU, but his dad's in love with PSU i guess and wanted him to consider them more. Pryor's pushing for OSU, his dad's pushing for PSU, and nobody's pushing for Michigan. It was a nice run but we started too late. We're already looking forward to next year's recruiting of Sheppard, Newsome, Forcier, and Newton.brutus2002;1088014; said:
BuckTwenty;1088132; said:
We'll be hurting there because Jamison is a senior this year, and if Graham has a monster season he might leave for the NFL. Then in 2009 we'd have RS Junior Greg Banks, Senior Adam Patterson, RS Sophomore Ryan Van Bergen, and whoever we recruit this season. None of those 3 players have seen significant playing time in their career yet, so it would be a concern.
Just a note, Carson Butler is upset with the new workouts that Michigan does now. He's complaining because of all the running that they have to do. In previous seasons under Gittleson they ran untimed 20 yard dashs and other runs in jaunts of 10 yards. Now under Barwis they run timed 40, 60, 80, and 100 yard dashs. If you don't reach the time you're required to get, you have to do extra running after the strength and conditioning is over for that day. All the players complaining right now are the players that didn't exert themselves to their fullest ability under the previous S&C coach, and it's showing. Not saying he might leave, but he's one of many players that are complaining about how hard it is now. We've had 8 players leave the program already, 2 because of medicals, Mallett transferring, 2 offensive lineman who would never see the field, 2 more linemen who didn't have the heart to continue playing on, and 1 defensive linemen for unclosed reasons.
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Been feeling that way, my whole life.
On a serious note, Barwis may have been UM's key hire. (Yeah, I know. Earlier I said it would be the DC, but I changed my mind.) Sounds like the boys up north are getting pushed a LOT harder in the weight room and on the track. Whether or not it shows a greater toughness on the field remains to be seen, but, at the very least, guys will be mentally tougher. If what everyone says about RR and his practice "demeanor" is true, the fun is just beginning for Butler and the rest.
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Solid post, glad to have another intelligent contributor from the dark side, especially one capable of civil but strong debate.
Butler and Mitchell were the first names that came to mind once I learned that barwis was closing the country club.
Butler and Mitchell were the first names that came to mind once I learned that barwis was closing the country club.
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SNIPER26
Banned
ChisAto;1088150; said:
Waah waah waah. Too bad Carson. There's a reason why Michigan has lost so many fourth quarter games in recent years or even just the second half. The old S&C program was brutal. When Ryan Mundy comes out and says "Oh we do these new things at WVU like squats and hang cleans", that's concerning. Squats and hang cleans should be two of the lifts performed very frequently by any athlete, and any S&C program that doesn't do them is retarded. I bet you Carson won't complain when Michigan is outlasting teams in the second half/fourth quarter.
That's why we needed Barwis.
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ChisAto
Michigan Fan
Pahokee standout signs with Wolverines -- South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com
Martavious Odoms signed his letter of intent and is coming to Michigan.
Martavious Odoms signed his letter of intent and is coming to Michigan.
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ChisAto
Michigan Fan
brutus2002;1088804; said:
He's one of the undersized speedsters that RR is going after. 5-10 154 I believe with a 4.45 40. I like how he's getting all the players to work in space, but it's going to be interesting to see how he adjusts to a team that puts 5-6 DBs out there and tries to bump them all. They got plenty of speed but it won't do any good if they're getting re-routed at the line of scrimmage.
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ChisAto;1088816; said:
That's what's going to be interesting to see. How will all these ping pong balls work against bigger, more physical Big-10 defenses.
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brutus2002
Legend
NFBuck has a good point. What will be the attrition of some of these smaller athletes in the B10. In the Big East you can get away with more because their defenses are COMPOSED OF SMALLER DEFENDERS but the B10 no matter what anybody thinks outside the conference... is much more physical than the BE.
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NastyDogg72
You can be with us, or lose to us.
ChisAto;1088816; said:
What it comes down to in my mind is that you would expect at least one of those four or five to get open, as long as you have someone under center who can get through his progressions and find that open man you create the situation you are looking for, a playmaker in space. Not to mention that with just formation you are taking the DB's out of run support and freeing up the RB and QB if nobody finds a soft spot in the defense. Then the question becomes whether the offensive line can stand up to the speed rushers that are becoming a fixture in Big 10 recruiting classes. Going to be a really interesting chess match.
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brutus2002
Legend
There are three major problems with the spread.
Moving the ball is easy between the 20's but can be hurt in the redzone because they cannot line up and smack you in the mouth.
They tend to have 2-3 games a year where they turn the ball over 4-6 times resulting in a loss.
They are a finesse offense...sometimes when they get punched in the mouth they lose their timing or fold like a tent...WR's get short armed.
Moving the ball is easy between the 20's but can be hurt in the redzone because they cannot line up and smack you in the mouth.
They tend to have 2-3 games a year where they turn the ball over 4-6 times resulting in a loss.
They are a finesse offense...sometimes when they get punched in the mouth they lose their timing or fold like a tent...WR's get short armed.
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Sportsbuck28
Here comes the BOOM
You've also got to keep in mind though that scUM has an offensive line that was 62nd in the nation in sacks allowed.. even including Jake Long last year. Will the QB's even have enough time to get the ball out to the WR's?
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InsideTexas
'09 ATH Russell Shephard was offered by UT but did not commit.
UT seems content, for now, with Gilbert as their "QB." Opening the door for UM?
'09 ATH Russell Shephard was offered by UT but did not commit.
UT seems content, for now, with Gilbert as their "QB." Opening the door for UM?
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Sportsbuck28
Here comes the BOOM
I doubt it. From everything I've seen Shephard wants to be a Longhorn more than he wants to be a QB.
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