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2007 Preseason and Regular season Polls

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MililaniBuckeye;933589; said:
I have no problem with App State being #23...I bet they'd beat half the Big Ten teams.
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Well thats not really the big point.

its more of South Carolina Being #4 and Alabama being #6, and a 1 loss Nebraska team being ahead of Ohio State And West Virginia

not to mention Rutgers being #24 and behind Appalachian State
 
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buckeyemania11;933592; said:
Well thats not really the big point.

its more of South Carolina Being #4 and Alabama being #6, and a 1 loss Nebraska team being ahead of Ohio State And West Virginia

not to mention Rutgers being #24 and behind Appalachian State
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Why didn't you offer these explanations in the first place rather than simply bolding some teams in the rankings, implying you just disagree with their being ranked in those spots. If Rutgers were #23 and App State #24 would you agree with that?
 
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MililaniBuckeye;933589; said:
I have no problem with App State being #23...I bet they'd beat half the Big Ten teams.
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Well, I have a big problem with them being ranked. A few reasons:

1. scUM was overrated...a lot.

2. When a D-1a scrub, like say a Northwestern, upsets a big time team they rarely get ranked. They have to win a few more games to prove they're legit. ASU gets the benefit of only having to win one big game and then can rest on it during their 1AA schedule.

3. There's no way they'd beat half the Big-10 teams. They don't have the depth. They'd get 2 wins tops.

4. I don't believe they're a top 50 team or even a top 75 team. I think they had a perfect storm brewing against scUM and since it was such a big upset at the time, some people overreacted and ranked them.

They have some nice players and are a feel-good story but lets not kid ourselves, they are far from being one of the 25 best college football teams.
 
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OregonBuckeye;933471; said:
Rutgers and Wisconsin? :roll2:
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I generally like Mandel but remember, this is the same guy who dropped OSU a couple of spots because scUM lost to App St.

Jaxbuck;933485; said:
I think OSU would be favored on a neutral field over teams 5-9 personally.
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The only one I may disagree with is Cal just because they have so many offensive weapons. It'd be interesting to see how our defense would hold up against them.
 
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buckeyemania11;933585; said:
Jon Wilner (San Jose Mercury) Week 4 Ballot

News from The Associated Press

1Southern Cal
2LSU
3Oklahoma
4South Carolina- WTF? South Carolina beats Georgia and is top 5?
5Wisconsin
6Alabama- This guy has to be an SEC homer
7Florida
8California
9Penn St.
10Oregon
11Texas
12Boston College
13Nebraska- They lose and somehow dont lose any position?
14Ohio St.-Should be top 10, and Definetly should be ahead of nebraska
15West Virginia-Same as Ohio State
16Georgia
17South Florida
18Arkansas- They lose to an Unrated team and barely fall?
19Virginia Tech
20Clemson
21Missouri
22Cincinnati
23Appalachian St.- The 1-AA has its own poll
24Rutgers-Probably a Big East hater, how is rutgers behind 3 1 loss teams and a 1-AA team
25Georgia Tech
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South Carolina, Alabama, and Wisky would beat Flordia? Not last week..
 
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[quote='BusNative;93447;4]Good analysis from The-Ozone today on the BCS conferences.

The Big Ten does not compare badly at all.

http://the-ozone.net/football/2007/Northwestern/bcsreport.htm[/quote]

He's out of his mind if he thinks the BE gets 2 in the BCS while the B12 and Pac 10 only get one.

The only conference that is clearly worse than the B10 right now is the ACC. A case can be made for everyone else being equal or better. Hopefully we continue to improve and can have a good Bowl season. If tsun has a good conference record its just going to kill the B10.
 
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Jaxbuck;934523; said:
The only conference that is clearly worse than the B10 right now is the ACC. A case can be made for everyone else being equal or better. Hopefully we continue to improve and can have a good Bowl season. If tsun has a good conference record its just going to kill the B10.
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I understand that you used the phrase clearly worse, but don't you think that your post is a little draconian with regards to the big 10? The whole "down year" thing has gone a little too far, and two big bowl losses last year don't spell doom for an entire conference the next year.

Sure the writing might have been on the wall for Mich, but the USC-Mich game (not to mention the NC game) has little to do with OSU, PSU, UW, or Purdue this year.

In fact, the only thing I can tell for sure about this year is that each conference has some clear early front-runners, some teams vying to be amongst the front-runners, some disappointments and some bottom-feeders. That's as true of the SEC, Pac-10, Big XII, BE as it is of the ACC or the Big 10.
 
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A blurb from CollegeFootballNews.com

Scout.com: ASK CFN ... How Bad Is The Big Ten?

I know there have been some bad losses (NW to Duke, Iowa to ISU) and Michigan has sucked, but the Big Ten should get some credit for having the best out-of-conference winning percentage and best out-of-conference winning percentage against BCS conference teams. It's not the best conference , but it's no ACC. I'd also take it over the Big East and Big 12. I think the Big Ten gets ripped on because its teams aren't as "stylish", although it admittedly is a bit disappointing so far. Why are we hearing so many rip on the Big Ten and not the ACC, etc.? - Buckeye Fan in Michigan

A: Along with dumping on Notre Dame, it's become fashionable to rip on the Big Ten after the Ohio State disaster against Florida in the national title, and Michigan's problems with USC in the Rose, and, of course, to start out the year. The league gets so much publicity compared to all the other conferences, including the SEC, that everyone likes to dump on it when it's not that great. However, I'm with you in that the ripping has become mostly unwarranted.

The SEC might be the best conference in America from top to bottom, but there are only two killers (LSU and Florida) and a bunch of good teams. I'd take my chances with Penn State, Wisconsin or Ohio State to finish third in the SEC this year, and I still wouldn't put it past Michigan, Purdue or if everything broke right, Michigan State, to beat a Georgia, South Carolina or Arkansas.

The Pac 10? It's getting a lot of love right now because of USC, and Oregon and Cal came up with big wins, but after UCLA's embarrassment against Utah, Arizona's loss to New Mexico, Oregon State's blowout loss to Cincinnati, Washington's loss to Ohio State and Washington State's loss to Wisconsin, I?m not sure where the bandwagon is coming from.

Again, I thing the SEC is best because it's so, so solid from 1 to 12, but the Big Ten is certainly in the mix for second. Purdue is better than you think, Michigan State is solid, Indiana has a dangerous offense (and could be comparable to Vanderbilt in the SEC), Illinois has suddenly become relevant, and Wisconsin (despite the struggles lately), Penn State, and Ohio State are all going to get better as the year goes on. Of course, it doesn't help the cause when Northwestern loses at home to Duke, Minnesota loses to Florida Atlantic, and Iowa loses to Iowa State. Wait until bowl time, and then it should all wash out. Remember, Wisconsin
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I agree with this completely (see my post above). Big 10 bashing has been largely overdone.
 
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