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2007 Preseason and Regular season Polls

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ant80;932324; said:
I could be wrong, but I doubt he was calling you out on it. I believe his intention was to point out how Herbie's originally seemingly ridiculous poll voting worked out so well... Gotta hand it to Herbie. He is one of the keenest analysts in the sport.
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I don't think it worked out well at all, yet. He's still grossly overrating PSU, whose offense struggled for awhile against NoD.
 
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he gets under my skin....i swear he plays both sides of the fence..especially on his radio show pandering to buckeye fans....i just wish he said what he really believed, instead of being so anti-buckeye to make it seem as though he isn't biased

some of his predictions have been beyond bad lately
 
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billmac91;932346; said:
he gets under my skin....i swear he plays both sides of the fence..especially on his radio show pandering to buckeye fans....i just wish he said what he really believed, instead of being so anti-buckeye to make it seem as though he isn't biased

some of his predictions have been beyond bad lately
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If he was nothing but a flaming homer on his shows he wouldn't be working for the talking heads. Is that what you want?
 
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Best Buckeye;932357; said:
If he was nothing but a flaming homer on his shows he wouldn't be working for the talking heads. Is that what you want?
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It hasn't stopped Lou, May (somewhat), and others.

I'd like consistency. billmac is right that herbie seems to put on a different hat for radio vs tv.
 
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Best Buckeye;932357; said:
If he was nothing but a flaming homer on his shows he wouldn't be working for the talking heads. Is that what you want?
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I guess Lou Holtz isn't a pandering homer...I guess Desond Howard isn't a pandering homer...even Reece Davis pimps ALabama every chance he gets.....I'm not saying Herbstreit disses the buckeyes and says crap about them...he just makes ridiculous claims as to show he isn't a buckeye homer, but then comes on Columbus radio and sounds like a homer......all I'm saying, is if he thinks Penn St. is the clear #1 team in the big-10, then he should be consistent w/ it...and it isn't just that team or tha thing...he's really articulate, but his opinions just suck or his game analysis is just wrong sometimes

anyways, thats another topic, but if he thinks the buckeyes suck or are just average, come out and say it on ESPN and 1460, stay consistent, and I don't really care..just don't tell me two different things
 
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there are a few people that think that Herbie is playing mid games when he does stuff like say that he has Penn State #5 and that they are the best in the Big Ten in order to get the guys in Scarlet and Gray fired up to prove him wrong...
 
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You have to consider 1. where Herbie's heart is, 2. where his paycheck is, and then, lastly, 3. who his audience is.

So after consideration, he: 1. Is a Buckeye. 2. Gets paid by everybody's favorites, the worldwide leaders, and 3. This is the tough one.

Herbie is the one who seems to get his mind closer to reality as the games get closer to kickoff. As much as everyone wants to say that he picks against tOSU to seem unbiased, he uses his head and will be just about the most accurate analyst around when it comes down to it. I think he is very good at not portraying himself as an all-out Ohio State homer, when it would be very hard not to, with as much Representation as he must be riddled with.

ESPN has most likely afforded him a very comfortable lifestyle, with which he has used to create just about the most desirable job in sports, if you ask me. The dude flies all over the country, lives and breathes college football for a living, and is paid to do what most of us wish we could do for free.

As far as the National/Local media differences go, you have to go back to who he works for. When I lived in Columbus, I used to keep my radio on 1460 am regardless of day, time, or anything else you can think of. I heard a lot of what the folks complain about as far as him switching his mindset. Is he going to go on national TV to tout how awesome, overlooked, and under-rated his Buckeyes are? How far does that get the guy? He plays to an audience that largely cannot stand the Buckeyes, or at least feel that their team would throttle us. Once he gets on Columbus radio, I feel that's where the real Herbie is. If he calls the Bucks to win a game locally that he previously stated otherwise, then I would tend to lean to the local side. He simply knows how to do it.
 
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Excellent post, schwab. It may also be that Herbie1460 is the fan talking, and HerbiEspn is the analyst.

Personally, I don't need another fanboy on ESPN... he can save that for 1460. However, I would like to hear Herbie bring his ESPN contrarian stances to 1460 if that's what he truly believes. Unless he is required to counter the cliff jumper named Hooley.
lvbuckeye;932414; said:
there are a few people that think that Herbie is playing mid games when he does stuff like say that he has Penn State #5 and that they are the best in the Big Ten in order to get the guys in Scarlet and Gray fired up to prove him wrong...
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Also, pimping PSU (& UM) also adds to the value of OSU's wins. I'm fairly positive this is why Spielman chose UM this season. A fundamental-crazed defender like Spiels siding with a weak defense further weakened by 4 top-50 draft picks?

I think Herbie gives good, balanced breakdowns of teams and players. However, I don't think his prognostications are as good.
 
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Mandel was kinder to the Buckeyes this week

SI.com - Writers - Stewart Mandel: Week 4 College Football Rankings - Tuesday September 18, 2007 1:17PM
10 Ohio State Buckeyes (3-0)
The Buckeyes gave the Big Ten its first convincing non-conference victory last week in Seattle. Not only did James Laurinaitis (two INTs) and the defense play well, but new QB Todd Boeckman (14-for-25, 218 yards, two TDs, no INTs) was surprisingly effective in his first career road start.

Last game: Beat Washington, 33-14.
Next game: Saturday vs. Northwestern.
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Another Reason Why The AP Poll Is A Joke

Jon Wilner (San Jose Mercury) Week 4 Ballot

News from The Associated Press

1Southern Cal
2LSU
3Oklahoma
4South Carolina- WTF? South Carolina beats Georgia and is top 5?
5Wisconsin
6Alabama- This guy has to be an SEC homer
7Florida
8California
9Penn St.
10Oregon
11Texas
12Boston College
13Nebraska- They lose and somehow dont lose any position?
14Ohio St.-Should be top 10, and Definetly should be ahead of nebraska
15West Virginia-Same as Ohio State
16Georgia
17South Florida
18Arkansas- They lose to an Unrated team and barely fall?
19Virginia Tech
20Clemson
21Missouri
22Cincinnati
23Appalachian St.- The 1-AA has its own poll
24Rutgers-Probably a Big East hater, how is rutgers behind 3 1 loss teams and a 1-AA team
25Georgia Tech
 
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