2007 Preseason and Regular season Polls

[daddyphatsacs]

I wouldn't worry about the polls right now. Michigan dug their own grave, and deserve to be dropped that low. As for us........if we keep winning, things will fall in place. Quite honestly, the Big Ten hasn't done a damn thing to help it's reputation.

 

[Yertle]

Exactly. Worrying about the poles at this point is crazy. As long as we're undefeated and in at least 6th place by the Wisky game, we're golden. An undefeated Ohio State team will not be screwed out of a BCS title game. No chance in hell.

 

[Dryden]

Quite honestly, the Big Ten hasn't done a damn thing to help it's reputation.

What are you talking about? I thought the Big Ten teams looked really good from what I heard over my radio this past weekend.

 

[OregonBuckeye]

Worrying about the poles at this point is crazy.

These poles?

 

[Best Buckeye]

 

[korchiki]

When you play a IAA team you are supposed to win. No one gives you gold points for beating a team like YSU. You are supposed to beat them. Voters do not watch the game and if you don't beat them by a ton then they may put you lower as per a team that beat a better team like Cal and Tenn. The voters know it is regarded as a practice.
If you do not beat them or barely scrape by then bar the door cuz the bear is trying to get in your house.

Completely agree...honestly who should we be ahead of...VT is really the only one but they are gonna lose this weekend anyway so its not gonna matter...GA proved a lot with their win as did Cal, Oklahoma, and Wisc...

Of course it always sucks to drop in the rankings especially when you are winning but for one team to move up another has to move down...any time a ranked team beats another ranked team or really comes out and dominates/has a good showing they deserve to move up...we didn't...obviously our play calling was pretty basic and laid back but still from all accounts we played very sloppy football

 

[spotpass]

Playing I-AA Youngstown State instead of our usual MAC team wasn't the cause. Florida blasted Western Kentucky, a I-AA team that Youngstown State 19-3 beat last year, and didn't drop. Louisville--who jumped us--beat up on I-AA Murray State, and rose in the polls (evidently 73 points against a I-AA team that went 2-9 and 1-10 the last two years is pretty impressive). Playing a I-AA team didn't hurt them.

We got jumped because Tressel had enough class to not run up the score, and because Cal beat #15 Tennessee and Georgia dominated Oklahoma State.

That's about how I see it too. Hell, App State would have put up 73 points on Murray St if they wanted to.

 

[jenkinswoody]

Exactly. Worrying about the poles at this point is crazy. As long as we're undefeated and in at least 6th place by the Wisky game, we're golden. An undefeated Ohio State team will not be screwed out of a BCS title game. No chance in hell.

Crazy bastards and their polkas. Say what you will, but i'll worry. They scare the hell out of me. Not as much as clowns though!

 

[Yertle]

These poles?

Crap. Ummmmm, no, I was thinking more of these kinds of poles...

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

Crap. Ummmmm, no, I was thinking more of these kinds of poles...

I've never envied a pole before...

 

[BB73]

Here's an AP blurb about historical drops in the polls. For some reason, it doesn't mention that #5 Oklahoma dropped out of the top-20 after a 45-21 loss in South Bend in September of 1968. This list is mine.

Top 5 teams that dropped from the AP top-20 (1968 and earlier) or top-25:
1950 - #2 Tennessee (lost 7-0 at Starkville to unranked Miss. St.)
1959 - #2 Oklahoma (lost 45-13 in Evanston to #10 Northwestern)
1959 - #4 Army (lost 20-14 in Champaign to unranked Illinois)
1960 - #4 Illinois (lost 34-7 in Champaign to #5 Ohio State)
1968 - #5 Oklahoma (lost 45-21 in South Bend to #3 ND)
2007 - #5 Michigan (lost 34-32 in Ann Arbor to FCD/I-AA Appalachian St.)

Note to those wondering (from '62 though '67, the AP only ranked 10 teams. I didn't include teams from those years)

espn.AP

Before Michigan's fall, Notre Dame held the ignominious record for largest drop in the rankings in the Top 25-era. The Fighting Irish dropped 16 spots -- from No. 9 to No. 25 -- after losing to Northwestern 17-15 on Sept. 3, 1995.

Texas dropped 15 spots in 1997, going from ninth to 24th after a 66-3 loss to UCLA in September 1997. Louisville also fell 15 spots -- 11th to unranked -- in September 2005 after losing to South Florida.

The highest ranked team to fall from the poll after one loss was No. 2 Oklahoma in 1959, when the AP was ranking the top 20 teams. Later that season Army went from No. 4 to unranked.

In 1950, Tennessee went from No. 4 to unranked in October and in 1960 Illinois fall out of the ranking from No. 4.

 

[Mike80]

Crap. Ummmmm, no, I was thinking more of these kinds of poles...

They have private lessons too!!!

 

[bkochmc]

Also posted in The Appy Factor thread...

ESPN - AP: Lower-division schools now eligible for poll - College Football

AP: Lower-division schools eligible thanks to Mountaineers

Associated Press

Updated: September 6, 2007, 7:13 PM ETAfter pulling off one of the greatest upsets in college football history, Appalachian State is still shaking things up.

The Associated Press said Thursday that lower-division schools -- that means you, Mountaineers -- are now eligible for its 71-year-old poll.

"It's great they opened the door," Appalachian State coach Jerry Moore said. "Certainly we're not going to be the No. 1 team in the country. We know that. We're not even going to be in the top 10. But if you have a win over a nice football team, I like that it's not out of the realm of possibility for a school like us to be one of the top 20 or 25 teams in the country."

Continued...

 

[Dryden]

ESPN - College GameDay Kickoff: Week 2 preview - College Football

Sidebar comment filed under ESPN Research:

Last time an AP Top 25 did not contain one or more of Michigan, Notre Dame, Miami Fla, and Florida State?

October 1967.

 

[bkochmc]

Interesting take on Ohio State dropping in the polls from Keith over at BuckeyeCommentary:

Tressel's gang received 919 points in the preseason USA Today Coaches Poll. After week one, they received 977. That means, on average, the Buckeyes were voted higher than they were in the preseason by one spot because they received 58 more votes from the 60 voters. Likewise, OSU received 64 more points in the AP Poll, which equals approximately 1 position higher per voter (there are 65 AP voters).

That just further goes to show preseason polls are a crapshoot and things will work out in the end (assuming OSU takes care of business).