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2007 Preseason and Regular season Polls

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Bestbuck36;871597; said:
1 loss definitely won't make it this year for us.
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As it shouldn't. A 1-loss team should never think they have the right to be in the national championship. I don't care if there are no undefeated teams. You need to have the mentality of "win your games, or leave it all up to chance." You might pull off a Florida, but I wouldn't count on it.

Win all of your games, and you're in. You might get Ohio State's treatment in 2002 - no one has any faith you will win the next game. But if you keep winning, you're in. Of course, you might get Auburned, but that, I think, moves us 1 step closer to a playoff.
 
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Zurp;871892; said:
As it shouldn't. A 1-loss team should never think they have the right to be in the national championship. I don't care if there are no undefeated teams. You need to have the mentality of "win your games, or leave it all up to chance." You might pull off a Florida, but I wouldn't count on it.

Win all of your games, and you're in. You might get Ohio State's treatment in 2002 - no one has any faith you will win the next game. But if you keep winning, you're in. Of course, you might get Auburned, but that, I think, moves us 1 step closer to a playoff.
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I totally agree. As to the 2002 treatment, so what? The only polls or opinions that matter are the ones posted the day after the Championship Game. Auburn's the exception.
Good post, Zurp.

:gobucks3::osu2::gobucks4:
 
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pianobuck46;872056; said:
As to the 2002 treatment, so what?
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That was my point. Win all your games, and the worst that can happen is you get the 2002 treatment.

With the exception, of course, of Auburn. But, like I said, if Ohio State goes undefeated, and they don't get into the national championship game, the only reason that would be is because two other teams went undefeated. In the long, illustrious history of the BCS, only 12 teams from within BCS conferences went undefeated. Auburn was the only one of those teams to not make the BCS national championship game, and that was when 2 other undefeated teams went. (Those numbers come from my remembery - they may not be correct.) The one time an undefeated team didn't make it to the national championship game, national arguments for a playoff system were possibly the loudest. So, in my opinion, if Ohio State doesn't make it to the national championship game with an undefeated season (which I still believe to be unlikely), it will bring us closer to a playoff.
 
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Zurp;872486; said:
In the long, illustrious history of the BCS, only 12 teams from within BCS conferences went undefeated. Auburn was the only one of those teams to not make the BCS national championship game, and that was when 2 other undefeated teams went. (Those numbers come from my remembery - they may not be correct.)
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The numbers were correct before last season, when tOSU became the 13th BCS team to finish the regular season undefeated.

During the 9 years of the BCS, 3 years have been clear-cut, one time an undefeated BCS team was left out, and the other 5 have involved a beauty contest among 1-loss teams:

3 undefeated BCS teams - 1 year
04 - USC - Oklahoma - Auburn

2 undefeated BCS teams - 3 years
99 - FSU - Va. Tech.
02 - Miami - tOSU
05 - USC - Texas

1 undefeated BCS team - 4 years
98 - Tennessee
00 - Oklahoma
01 - Miami
06 - tOSU

0 undefeated BCS teams - 1 year
03 (the year Okla-LSU played, and USC was the AP #1)
 
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Taken from here: http://wearesc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1485

What conference elite are overrated? Which conference is underrated? It sure makes for some spirited debated on the message boards.

Over the last 3-4 summers I have been running an updated post comparing the elite teams in each conference by the polling which is done each year. I looked at the AP preseason poll and final poll over the last seven years, from 2000- 2006. My definition of Elite teams is those that are ranked in the Top Ten in the polls.

Some conferences say they are the best, hands down. Like the SEC fans, or the Big Xll fans. And some say that they are underrated, or ignored by the rest of the nation, like the PAC 10. Well, I think that comparing the results of the AP Pre-Season Top 10 to the AP final Top Ten is a real good indicator of who is overrated/underrated when it comes to the Elite teams in each Conference.

The Following list shows the number of teams in each conference over the last seven years which were ranked in the Top Ten by the AP poll, preseason and after the Bowls. I used the Top Ten, not the Top 25, because I felt that the Top 10 was the best indicator of an Elite team and that there was much more consensus among fans nationwide at the end of the season on the Top 10 than those ranked 11-25.

RESULTS 2000- 2006


SEC Preseason Top Ten: 16
Final Top Ten: 15

Big Xll Preseason Top Ten: 19
FINAL Top Ten: 14

PAC 10 Preseason Top Ten: 7
Final Top Ten: 13

BIG 10 Preseason TOP Ten: 9
FINAL Top Ten: 12

Big East Preseason Top Ten: 9
FINAL Top Ten: 8

ACC Preseason Top Ten : 9
Final Top Ten : 3

A quick analysis shows that two conferences, the SEC and the Big East, perform very closely to their preseason rankings. Each has had one more team make the preseason Top 10 than have finished in the Top 10.

The Big Xll and the ACC both are extremely overrated at the beginning of the season when it comes to Elite teams. The ACC has had three times the teams make the preseason as finished in the top ten. That?s a huge percentage difference and shows that over the last 7 seasons the ACC is absolutely the most overrated conference in the nation when it comes to Elite teams.

The Big 10 is surprisingly underrated. The Big 10 has 33% more teams finish in the top 10 in the sample years than are rated preseason. Very underrated conference on the Elite level.

The PAC 10. All I can say is wow. Every other conference has had more teams ranked in the Top ten preseason. Yet the PAC has had almost twice as many Top ten finishes as the preseason rankings.

It?s obvious that at the Elite level, the ACC has been incredibly overrated on a national level over the last 7 seasons. The PAC 10 has been incredibly underrated in the same time period.
 
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Pretty much confirms what I've thought. The ACC is horribly overrated, usually the Big-12 too(Texas Tech is the worst offender. They should NEVER EVER be ranked in the top 25), while the Pac-10 and Big-10 perform above expectations.
 
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martinss01;886773; said:
does this mean we have to stop mocking usc's schedule?
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Especially this year, there's absolutely no reason to mock a USC schedule. Not because our is a little weaker than normal, but because the Pac-Ten is, imo, the 2nd best conference this year behind the SEC (not by a lot either). They play a VERY difficult schedule next year.
 
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SI has tOSU at #11. The link shows their top 20. Then clicking on Ohio State goes to their Buckeyes team preview. For a more complete team preview, see BP's home page. :wink2:

si.com

A grizzled O-line looks for redemption after the BCS blowout


The Buckeyes can be forgiven for feeling vulnerable. In fact, a little self-doubt might be a good thing. Gone to the NFL are last year's Heisman Trophy winner (quarterback Troy Smith), leading rusher (Antonio Pittman) and leading receivers (Ted Ginn Jr. and Anthony Gonzalez). Haunting the players' minds like a recurring nightmare are memories of the blowout loss to Florida in the BCS championship game last January. Complacency won't be an issue in Columbus. Redemption is all anybody's thinking about. "We have to reprove everything we've ever done," says senior right tackle Kirk Barton.

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