see, right there is problem #1. forgive me but id like the explaination of "tresselball" to come from oh... i don't know... jim tressel? second problem. i see nothing explaining the ins and outs of tresselball. in fact, i see very little in this story that has anything to do with football strategy. there isn't even a single formation or play drawn up. there are a few scattered quotes from various people and a whole lot of opinion from a 3rd party...
First after doing a google search on Tressel ball coming up with 20,000 websites ....this link probably gives the most precise definition of Tressel ball. Unfortunately not from Tressel.
http://www.fanblogs.com/big10/archives/001543.php
"In the NC State game, the team was playing Tressel ball at its finest -- controlling field position, tough defense, no big mistakes on offense -- but little offensive production. Upcoming games: idle, at Northwestern, then Wisconsin at home."
2nd you want quotes from Tressel?
http://www.thelantern.com/news/2004/10/11/Sports/OHIOh.No-749125.shtml
"Well, we needed to be the ones that had the 2-0 turnover margin," Tressel said after the game. "It's going to be tough to beat a good team like Wisconsin losing the turnover margin. We also needed to do a much better job of keeping the ball and keeping our defense off the field, especially in the second half."
http://www.the-ozone.net/football/2004/Byeweek/noteandquotebook092304.htm
"When you're in a slugging match against a good team establishing the field position of a championship bout is important. I thought we did a fairly decent job of that."
http://www.thelantern.com/news/2003/10/20/Sports/Special.Teams.Pour.It.On.The.Hawkeyes-533140.shtml
The difference in the football game, quite obviously, was the special units plays that our guys made," OSU coach Jim Tressel said.
http://www.thelantern.com/news/2004/10/22/Sports/Osu-Cant.Possibly.Lose.To.Indiana.Right-777766.shtml
"I think the main thing (is) the limitation of mistakes," he said. "If we just limit mistakes, things are going to happen - things are going to open up for this offense."
see, this quote right here and the one after are the exact reasons why we are having these discussions in the first place. i know mili has said it numerous times as have i. WE ARE NOT ZWICK FAN BOYS!! i have 0 problems with smith starting. i think he has a shitload of talent and will do well. the problem i have is that many here are grading these 2 qb's so wildly different it is beyond anything resembling logic. if smith throws a pick it wasn't smith's fault. the line didn't block, or the receiver dropped the pass, or whatever arbitrary excuse required for it to not be smith's fault.
>>> ...You're kidding with the Smith example. I've seen so many excuses for Zwick we could have seperate forum devoted to it OL, RB, WR, coaches, playcalling everyone else except him. We even have excuses for Smith's successes i.e he's only a mobile qb bs. Thats how bad its been.
Do we give Smith too much praise? Anything different than Krenzel who beat Michigan when Bellisari was suspended? NO. I think the praise is deserved. Smith has a slight edge. Not only because of the Michigan game but all the games since Iowa. I really don't understand it. How you can grade them equal.
if zwick throws a pick people start demanding explainations as to why his mother didn't have an abortion. if zwick has anything resembling a good game, well all the sudden football becomes a team sport for you smith people. it wasn't zwick, it was the rest of the team carrying him. however, if smith has a good game... he did it all on his own! noone else even showed up and a shrine should be built in his honor asap!!
>>>You sound like a closet Zwick fan. This is so far from the truth its sounds like pure lunacy. In tressel ball every pic/int is frowned upon. It was frowned upon when Belli did it, it was frowned upon when CK did it, it will be frowned upon if JZ does it. Nobody is reinventing the wheel here or stating anything out of the ordinary. Everything is consistent. OK state was Zwick's best game. Why? few turnovers and his ability to move the ball. How many times must someone compliment OK st game before someone acknowledges that we did it.Maybe we should talk about that JZ block for the 1 millionth time.
Does that ERASE everything Smith did and make them EQUAL? NO.
Consistencies-> Smith few to no turnovers in the games he played. 3 INTs vs. Purdue bad game. I've admitted to it. Who gets the slight edge in games played Smith.
savior??????????????? wtf thinks jz or ts is a savior? if anyone does their understanding of football is greatly lacking. no one player on a TEAM can make a TEAM.
ts and jz account for ONE MAN on an 11 man offensive roster. of which, that offensive roster only accounts of a maximum of 1/3 of the TEAM!
team:
1 : a number of persons associated together in work or activity
savior:
1 : one that saves from danger or destruction
2 : one who brings salvation
>>>Maybe its based on 1 the high notoriety comming out of HS, 2. all the excuses given for him to date. 3. The wish of some people simply because of the suspension to crown up starte for 2005 season even before spring practice. 4. This somewhat unabashed love affair with him when he hasn't shown anything to resemble it in the games he's played. Thats just me.
do i have an opinion as to who i think should start? absolutely! but my opinion revolves more around the situation at hand with troy's suspension. not because i think one guy is gods gift to all things buckeye. jz is not pond scum and ts is not the finger of god. both these guys have a lot of talent. unfortunately (imo) both of these guys have a LOOOOOOONG way to go before im convinced either is "the man".
