And so we said when we lost two 5* Ohio kids to Oregon last year. The element of professionalism versus rah-rah seems to be winning out. Am interested how the 'feeling of brotherhood' shines out at tOSU (and other places certainly), for a HT recruit. I am too philosophically shallow to be able to discuss the pros and cons of the above, but certainly don't want to see the game descend into the put in the time, and after practice, go your own way. Would bet all of us have worked places, where people rush out the door at 5:00pm, and don't mingle after work etc. Am hoping that the helping out of another person at the position still counts, rather than the pros, where helping someone else out (learn position etc) would be helping them take your position and paycheck.