OregonBuckeye said:

Where is LSU getting all this money?

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Oil spills?

So I started thinking about the future of OSU recruiting, and how it will begin to pivot away from HSers being the main talent pool to draw from. Sports is cyclical and success breeds followers. And right now we are in the midst of a recruiting transformation where HSers are no longer the vital part of recruiting. And it may come off as sour grapes for the foreseeable future, because there will be a number of HS recruits, with some high rankings who IMO won't get serious looks because they are not ready to play within 2yrs. Gone are the days of expecting a HS recruit to sit and develop for multiple years, especially higher rated ones. For example, if you're a TE and not at least 230lbs when you leave for college, there's not much point in adding you unless the staff believes you will stay for multiple years. The looks of a LB who is around 200-210 may not get the same looks.

Rosters will need to be constructed on a yearly basis. Ready made players are going to be more attractive then waiting for a HSer to get body and mentally ready for college. A HS DE who's 6'5 230lbs may get passed up for a DE transferring from Auburn, Charlotte, Baylor, etc who's also 6'5 but is around 250-260lbs, and more than likely cheaper than the HSer who may be a high 4star or 5star. The OL transfer from UVA, Buffalo or UCLA will get the roster spot over a HSer now. Classes may be closer to around 20 for HSers, and some may be a little less. Because the rosters will shrink to where there will be little to no fat like on an NFL roster. There will be some kids that are talented 17yo, but they still need to grow to what a team like OSU wants to sign.

OregonBuckeye said:

Where is LSU getting all this money?

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when oilfield is booming, they have money.
plus Todd Graves is doing alright for himself these days too.

they’re also a lot more willing to hand over money for Kiffin than they were for Kelly.

I should have added that the corrupting factor turns out to be TV. If your school can't draw eyes to the screen, your one bad move from being punished. If you can draw eyes, why hell boy, you can be a natty champ.

Thursday, January 29:
Davidson at Gardner-Webb 6:00 PM
Lock Haven at Bucknell 7:00 PM ESPN+
Bloomsburg at Clarion 7:00 PM FloWrestling

Friday, January 30:
Northern Illinois at Lock Haven 2:00 PM PSAC Digital Network
Rider at George Mason 5:00 PM ESPN+
Penn State Behrend at Mercyhurst 6:00 PM
Wisconsin at Ohio State 6:00 PM Big Ten Network
Appalachian State at Campbell 7:00 PM Campbell Athletics YouTube
Ohio at Central Michigan 7:00 PM ESPN+
Bellarmine at Davidson 7:00 PM FloWrestling
Virginia at Duke 7:00 PM ACC Network Extra
Northwestern at Michigan 7:00 PM B1G+
Virginia Tech at NC State 7:00 PM ACC Network
Pittsburgh at North Carolina 7:00 PM ACC Network Extra
Maryland at Rutgers 7:00 PM B1G+
Minnesota at Iowa 8:00 PM B1G+
Northern Colorado at North Dakota State 8:00 PM NDSU All-Access
Iowa State at Oklahoma 8:00 PM ESPN+
Northern Iowa at Oklahoma State 8:00 PM ESPN+
Nebraska at Penn State 8:00 PM Big Ten Network
Air Force at South Dakota State 8:00 PM MidCo Sports Plus
Cal Poly at Stanford 9:00 PM ACC Network Extra
Indiana at Illinois 10:00 PM Big Ten Network

Saturday, January 31:
Edinboro, Mercyhurst at Edinboro Open 9:00 AM FloWrestling
Penn at Brown 12:00 PM ESPN+
Columbia at Cornell 1:00 PM ESPN+
Princeton at Harvard 1:00 PM ESPN+
Arizona State at Cornell 3:00 PM ESPN+
Clarion vs. LIU at Kent State 4:30 PM
Arizona State vs. Columbia at Cornell 5:00 PM
Oregon State at Wyoming 5:00 PM FloWrestling
Franklin & Marshall at Drexel 6:00 PM FloWrestling
LIU at Kent State 6:00 PM
The Citadel at Chattanooga 7:00 PM ESPN+
Missouri at Little Rock 7:00 PM FloWrestling
Rutgers at Rider 7:00 PM ESPN+
Clarion at Kent State 7:30 PM
Northern Iowa at Oklahoma 8:00 PM ESPN+
Morgan State at California Baptist 9:00 PM FloWrestling

Sunday, February 1:
George Mason at Lock Haven 12:00 PM PSAC Digital Network
Michigan at Ohio State 12:00 PM Big Ten Network
Hofstra at Franklin & Marshall 1:00 PM Centennial Digital Network
Penn at Harvard 1:00 PM ESPN+
VMI at Presbyterian 1:00 PM ESPN+
Wisconsin at Purdue 1:00 PM B1G+
Lehigh at Army West Point 2:00 PM FloWrestling
Princeton at Brown 2:00 PM
Buffalo at Central Michigan 2:00 PM ESPN+
Northwestern at Michigan State 2:00 PM Big Ten Network
Air Force at North Dakota State 2:00 PM NDSU All-Access
Bellarmine at Appalachian State 3:00 PM FloWrestling
Iowa State at Oklahoma State 3:00 PM ESPN+
Northern Colorado at South Dakota State 3:00 PM MidCo Sports Plus
Morgan State at Cal Poly 4:00 PM FloWrestling
Westcliff at CSU Bakersfield 5:00 PM CSUB YouTube
Hofstra at Drexel 6:00 PM FloWrestling

TampaBuckeyes said:

The NCAA has no integrity. Zero chance anything happens.

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What if the NCAA DOES have integrity. What if it's the colleges who lack integrity. Michigan went screaming and kicking all the way to the punishment phase to get off the hook.

buckeyemania11 said:

I'll play again; I need to make a new Yahoo account though i got locked out of the one I was using.

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ok if you need a new invite to a different email just DM me here

pnuts34 said:

Login to view embedded media Yeah, this has been talked about some during the Portal being open. Big HS classes will be a thing of the past, OSU more than likely only brings in HSers that can contribute by year 2 at best. The rest of the roster will be older transfers. I was going to break this down more in the overall OSU recruiting thread

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It’s cheaper to buy development than to hit and miss developing yourself.

Coach Monken the Masochist…

I'll play again; I need to make a new Yahoo account though i got locked out of the one I was using.

calibuck said:

Heard an opinion on Morning 5. The 'big' schools may not recruit the 3*'s as heavily, as in the project kids. Apparently the thought is that teams save on NIL, and use for the 'upper' 4/5*s with more/easier (?) developmental potential. And when portal time comes around, recruit those kids that were developed at 'lesser' schools, who have already shown out. Seems solid at first blush. Ohio State, down 31 portal exits, up 20+ portal entries. And total roster seems to be still in upper 80s (around 88 I believe), instead of the 105 (?) NCAA allows. There was 28 in recruiting class, which is above the former max of 25. Know that these above numbers are/were fluid, and seem to change daily. Pantoni may be adding another line to his resume, called something like 'Roster Maximization' or somesuch. Cleaning out the guys that 'haven't grown enough', 'shown enough', 'not going to be relied on' or some euphemism.

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Login to view embedded media Yeah, this has been talked about some during the Portal being open. Big HS classes will be a thing of the past, OSU more than likely only brings in HSers that can contribute by year 2 at best. The rest of the roster will be older transfers. I was going to break this down more in the overall OSU recruiting thread

Do especially like it as he seems to have sewn up the 4. Allows Noel and Tilly to rotate at the 5, and keep each other fresh. Also lets Devin (at the 3), sometimes crash into the crumb area for rebounds. Devin has the hops to elevate and snatch balls. Unfortunately, don't see much of this happening, as shot goes up, and everyone drops back for D.

Certainly don't see him getting any huge defensive stops. And sometimes see standing around, not off-ball movement. His break to the basket was certainly nice, and some deep shots were pretty, but agree that there are other skills that need honing.

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And Hartline might still have his pick of WRs, but not the Ohio State scenario to do it with. Can see WRs (better than average), going to USF versus wherever, because Hartline is there, but I don't know how good a team he's got there. Really thought Keinholtz might head there to be QB1, but didn't happen. Guess Hartline needs to build his daisy chain, get a good OL, then a good QB, then the good WRs....or in some other order..

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Hartline benefited A LOT from having that Block O on his chest. That bull won't hit the same walking into homes across the country, or even in SoFL now that Miami was just in the NC. He's going to find out quickly how hard it is to coach at the USF level and also get talent that he's accustomed to.
Sorry, back to Blake

And as the camera pans along the bench, see the big kid from Baylor sitting there, and wondering when, or if, he's going to earn his NIL this year. Certainly would be a presence in the paint, and maybe a big plus or not. Sounds like we're not going to see/know this year. And looking at the national rankings, the B10 is loaded with ranked teams. My thought is that the 'committee' will look at those rankings, and decide that's enough of the B10, and that the Buckeyes will be left out once again.

He's a good offensive mind. How he functions as a HC, with Schwartz likely leaving now, is.... meh.

Skeptical.

Heard an opinion on Morning 5. The 'big' schools may not recruit the 3*'s as heavily, as in the project kids. Apparently the thought is that teams save on NIL, and use for the 'upper' 4/5*s with more/easier (?) developmental potential. And when portal time comes around, recruit those kids that were developed at 'lesser' schools, who have already shown out. Seems solid at first blush. Ohio State, down 31 portal exits, up 20+ portal entries. And total roster seems to be still in upper 80s (around 88 I believe), instead of the 105 (?) NCAA allows. There was 28 in recruiting class, which is above the former max of 25. Know that these above numbers are/were fluid, and seem to change daily. Pantoni may be adding another line to his resume, called something like 'Roster Maximization' or somesuch. Cleaning out the guys that 'haven't grown enough', 'shown enough', 'not going to be relied on' or some euphemism.

brodybuck21 said:

9 in and 3 left to confirm!

@buckeyemania11
@heisman
@Bucklion

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@heisman might not be allowed to own a fantasy team

has to check with legal

Tomateaux Quinoa Gumbeaux said:

I will nominate Arthur Smith on behalf of @BuckeyeNation27

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I had it typed out, then was afraid of what lvbuckeye was going to yell at me....so I let it go.