Curtis Samuel was a burner as well, on the field and the track. 4.31 40 (same time as Parris Campbell).

ORD_Buckeye said:

Yep, just look at how, once they had to stop cheating, JJ Leaf went from Heisman favorite to a barely capable game manager. Vikings front office should all be thrown out of a helicopter after taking this fool's gold with the 11th pick.

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I just don't think McCord was that good. I think McCarthy would have been at least as good if not better with the talent and coaching he would have gotten at OSU. His mobility would have made the difference. Regardless, neither are really NFL caliber QBs and it shines a light on the level of incompetence at some NFL Front offices.

Mike80 said:

Nah - he wasn't better than McCord. He wasn't even allowed to play Quarterback even in a system that was blatantly cheating.

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Yep, just look at how, once they had to stop cheating, JJ Leaf went from Heisman favorite to a barely capable game manager. Vikings front office should all be thrown out of a helicopter after taking this fool's gold with the 11th pick.

DaveyBoy said:

He was probably better than McCord but would have been a step down from Stroud.....big step down.

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Nah - he wasn't better than McCord. He wasn't even allowed to play Quarterback even in a system that was blatantly cheating.

He was probably better than McCord but would have been a step down from Stroud.....big step down.

bigdog3300 said:

One of the few things I do know is - I've never seen a player close to Ginn when it comes to straight line speed. He somehow even made it look slow because of his long smooth strides, but then the gap behind him would grow and grow. I think maybe the closest straight line speed guy next up would be Parris Campbell? I know Ballard allegedly had elite speed but I'm also not sure we ever saw that in a game.

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yeah....the only Buckeye close to Ginn level of speed after 20 yards was Parris Campbell...Joey Galloway as well. Come to think of, I can't think of many NFL players who were faster than Ginn....if any. Darrell Green ? Willie Gault? Jamaal Charles? I'm sure there are more but none showed it consistently in straight line like Ginn did. Elusiveness buys some speedsters space to run....Ginn was never elusive per se but just ran away from people. I wish I'd seen Bob Hayes and Paul Warfield in person to judge them more

Saw Jason Isbell again recently. Not his best show, but it was still solid.

Rumor out there that Tool may be doing The Sphere in Vegas next year.

I just bought my 2026 fishing license............at 83

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Yeah, that picture is definitely doctored. Sr is listed at 6'1".

Turds

I'll wait until I have firm evidence...you know, the kind Q provides

Steve19 said:

From AI, but I checked and accurate...explains the original attraction of Big12 members to the SEC a bit more fully?

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Having a large alumni base is certainly an advantage, but I wonder what the Venn diagram between dues paying alumni and alumni that spend money on/donate money to the football program looks like for various universities. Are the dues paying alumni typically athletic department supporters, academic supporters, or both?