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OC/WR Coach Brian Hartline (National Champion, HC at USF, Buckeye OC for this postseason)

Seriously doubt that any player with a chance of being in two deep will follow Hartline to USF. No way, no how. Simply the TV exposure ensures that. But, if the kid is going to transfer anyway, why wouldn't he go be with a coach he's trained under? LK is a likely start for Hartline. Maybe the QB that transferred to South Caroline (?), name escapes me, but xferred when Sayin came on board. Might be another likely one. Yeah, some of the OL guys, haven't quite cut it at tOSU, or have been buried because of someone pushing ahead of them on the roster, certainly. Someone above said it best, if they're gonna Xfer anyway, why not go to USF with Hartline? It's a win-win-win after all. Win for the kid, he can play there. Win for Hartline, because he knows how well the kid's been taught/trained, and win for the Buckeyes, because it opens a roster space for another kid, whether recruit or transfer. And let us not forget, a win for the Buckeyes, because won't have to face them as an opponent. Win a ring on the pine, or play at another school?
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OC/WR Coach Brian Hartline (National Champion, HC at USF, Buckeye OC for this postseason)

That's obviously harmful. The not at all harmful part is what happens now. If players who are already transferring out go to USF, that's not harmful to Ohio State at all.
Right, which was what at I was taking the conversation to be about.

Hartline getting this opportunity for sure hurts, but we all knew it was going to happen at some point.
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OC/WR Coach Brian Hartline (National Champion, HC at USF, Buckeye OC for this postseason)

It’s harmful in the sense we lost the best recruiter and developer of talent anyone’s ever seen, for the position that has given the Ryan Day offense such a huge advantage for the past 6 years.

The pipeline is still full but this is the most dangerous assistant coach defection Day has had so far. Maybe ever will have.

It will be a be interesting to see how he manages it.
That's obviously harmful. The not at all harmful part is what happens now. If players who are already transferring out go to USF, that's not harmful to Ohio State at all.
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OC/WR Coach Brian Hartline (National Champion, HC at USF, Buckeye OC for this postseason)

He probably should take KH. He’s not starting over Sayin next year or St Clair the next. Why would you selfishly want a kid to ride the bench here rather than make a name for himself at a directional school?

I would rather him transfer to USF under Hartline than go somewhere like Ga Tech. And if there are any players that were already going to transfer, why not USF as well? This would have been a great position for a guy like Flemming.

I’m not saying we give him Smith or Chris Henry, but there are guys like Bryson Rogers that would benefit.
I have been on record saying Kenholtz should go to UCF with Frost, or now sure he can go to USF.

My main point is Hartline needs to be thrown into the deep cold water. And he either sinks or swims. No life rafts.
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OC/WR Coach Brian Hartline (National Champion, HC at USF, Buckeye OC for this postseason)

Yeah I really don’t get the angst TBH. I personally want Hartline to be successful and I don’t see how this is harmful to tOSU.
It’s harmful in the sense we lost the best recruiter and developer of talent anyone’s ever seen, for the position that has given the Ryan Day offense such a huge advantage for the past 6 years.

The pipeline is still full but this is the most dangerous assistant coach defection Day has had so far. Maybe ever will have.

It will be a be interesting to see how he manages it.

HC Ryan Day (B1G Coach of Year, B1G Champion, National Champion)

The biggest benefit to going fast is to get the defense on their heals, keep them from getting defensive play calls to the entire team and to keep them from substituting. Playing slow all year and then cranking up the pace in the playoffs can be more beneficial as the game plan for the other team will be expecting the ability to sub at will.

They don’t have to do it the whole game, but if they can do it in 3 drives in the first half it can provide an advantage. That’s if this team is even capable to run it, which they might not be able to do.
And when it doesn’t work? What is the result in the game then? Tempo alone does not equal success.

Execution was breaking down Saturday night. That is not the condition under which you say “let’s get more volume in” unless you are a bad gambler on tilt.

If you have the skill advantage and you are executing, by all means go faster early in the game and build a lead. It’s situationally dependent but before situation there has to be execution.
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OC/WR Coach Brian Hartline (National Champion, HC at USF, Buckeye OC for this postseason)

He probably should take KH. He’s not starting over Sayin next year or St Clair the next. Why would you selfishly rather a kid ride the bench here rather than make a name for himself at a directional school?

I would rather him transfer to USF under Hartline than go somewhere like Ga Tech. And if there are any players that were already going to transfer, why not USF as well? This would have been a great position for a guy like Flemming.

I’m not saying we give him Smith or Chris Henry, but there are guys like Bryson Rogers that would benefit.
Yeah I really don’t get the angst TBH. I personally want Hartline to be successful and I don’t see how this is harmful to tOSU.
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HC Ryan Day (B1G Coach of Year, B1G Champion, National Champion)

There is no getting around odds so feel free to believe whatever you want. The cold reality is that in football, every possession you give your opponent without increasing your lead is a gift of win probability to them. Even if you have the better offense, defense, athletes and coaching.

“more plays” is not universally good—it is good only when:
they are offensive plays
they are efficient
they consume clock
and they turn into points

Anything else is just giving the opponent another coin flip—and upset math lives off of coin flips.

Again, the problem Saturday night was not a lack of opportunity to make plays. It was a lack of execution. They did not produce points.

Going forward, nothing else needs change. Day has beaten talented teams before with the exact same fundamental structure. His approach is not the problem, it was just one outcome.
The biggest benefit to going fast is to get the defense on their heals, keep them from getting defensive play calls to the entire team and to keep them from substituting. Playing slow all year and then cranking up the pace in the playoffs can be more beneficial as the game plan for the other team will be expecting the ability to sub at will.

They don’t have to do it the whole game, but if they can do it in 3 drives in the first half it can provide an advantage. That’s if this team is even capable to run it, which they might not be able to do.
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PF A'mare Bynum (Official Thread)

Haven't caught much Buckeye basketball this year, but watched some of the WVU game and like the rest of you, Bynum really stood out. Modern day big, not going to beat you up but he'll get his nose dirty, runs the floor, wants to play both ways, finishes with authority. Seems to have a good understanding of his skillset. Really fit into the lineup with some other bigs around him quite well.

While I'm always concerned about the culture (not that it's bad, but when you're used to coming up short every year that will always hang in the air until it's not), this team feels different talent wise. For once they feel like they can compete to be a top 5 team in the B1G...good balance, leadership, diverse skill sets...I think I might be feeling some excitement about watching this team grow for the first time in many years.
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OC/WR Coach Brian Hartline (National Champion, HC at USF, Buckeye OC for this postseason)

I am done with this. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

But yes someone did mention having Hartline take Kenholtz, a couple Wrs, and some OL men with him.

He probably should take KH. He’s not starting over Sayin next year or St Clair the next. Why would you selfishly want a kid to ride the bench here rather than make a name for himself at a directional school?

I would rather him transfer to USF under Hartline than go somewhere like Ga Tech. And if there are any players that were already going to transfer, why not USF as well? This would have been a great position for a guy like Flemming.

I’m not saying we give him Smith or Chris Henry, but there are guys like Bryson Rogers that would benefit.
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