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Thank you.

Just like Harbaugh, Tressel had NCAA rules (at the time) broken under his watch.
Just like Harbaugh, Tressel lied to the NCAA about it.

Unlike the Harbaugh situation, once it got past the football facility OSU University leadership stepped in, played the role of adult and put an end to the bullshit. They did not allow football to put University resources at risk.

tsun, on the other hand, doubled the fuck down...SEC/old SWC style which ultimately puts the University mission at risk because of liabilities arising from this lack of leadership.

I continue to beat the drum pointing out that a University's mission and a pro sport entity's mission can be adjacent strategies but they cannot ever be core to each other. Education is the only thing that can lift the human condition in the long run. They should be plentiful and successful to reach the most lives possible. They should never be put at risk for professional sports.

As we witness this move to professionalism, don't wax nostalgic for the good old days that never really were. Embrace the new reality shedding more light on the misalignment and push anyway you can for the pro football teams to be split free from the Universities. It will be better for everyone.
It'll be interesting to see the difference in results. They got a title out of it. Obviously it shouldn't stick, but if it does....we're the dumb ones.
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LGHL Unpopular Opinion: Fun factor of conference expansion wears off quickly

Unpopular Opinion: Fun factor of conference expansion wears off quickly
Michael Citro
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UCLA v Rutgers

UCLA vs. Rutgers was an actual Big Ten football game in 2024. Did any fan want or need this? | Photo by Ed Mulholland/Getty Images

Super conferences are actually bad for college football.

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As a fan and alum of a blueblood college football program that is part of one of the so-called “super conferences” (and I think we can safely stop framing what’s been happening as “realignment” now), it pains me a bit to say it, but super conferences are a bad idea and they’re bad for college football.

(Note: For the purposes of this column, I’m writing about college football and am not delving into what conference expansion means for other sports.)

On the one hand, I like fun​


New additions to the conference are fun for a while. I’m old enough to remember how novel it was when Penn State joined the Big Ten. Those first couple of meetings (home and away) with the Nittany Lions were interesting. Adding the Penn State traditions and history to the B1G was strange, but cool.

After the initial newness wore off of the Nitts becoming a Big Ten program, Penn State vs. Ohio State (and PSU vs. Michigan) has been a lot of fun over the years and has provided a lot of incredible football moments (and yes, I fought it for a while, but I am one of those weirdos who believes that they are an Ohio State rival).

Ohio State v Penn State
Photo by Scott Taetsch/Getty Images
Ohio State vs. Penn State is an argument for conference expansion, but it is an exception.

Nebraska joining the league was interesting but seemed less dramatic by comparison. I thought perhaps the inclusion of the Huskers in the B1G would revitalize that program. That didn’t happen, but it might be in the early stages of happening now.

Again, the Buckeyes’ first few visits to Lincoln and the Cornhuskers’ first couple of trips to Columbus were interesting. But now that series is largely the same as playing Iowa, which isn’t to say that it is an unattractive matchup, but it doesn’t spark any additional interest the way Penn State does, and that could change if Nebraska’s program can get back to the national significance it once had.

The double addition of Rutgers and Maryland still seems like a drug-induced fever dream. It was the college football equivalent to adding a new kid with a recurring catch phrase to a stagnating sitcom. It improved nothing, may have degraded the product somewhat, and just seems to annoy everyone.

The quadruple addition to the Big Ten of former Pac-12 giants USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington was an attention grabber. Oregon (in quality) and USC (in historical terms) were eye-opening, headline-generating bombshells. UCLA and Washington feel like they came along for the ride, although both football programs have rich histories and successful pasts.

It’s early, but the arrival of these four new members in the Big Ten feels weird. The conference has grown so large, that it’s tough to imagine they can develop meaningful rivalries with the teams that were already in the conference, with the possible exception of Oregon with Ohio State. That’s largely based on a history of meaningful postseason games the Buckeyes and Ducks have played in the last decade or two — particularly during and after the 2024 season.

The conference lost a bit of its sense of regional pride and uniqueness when Rutgers and Maryland joined, and the additions of the former Pac-12 schools has diluted that even more. We’re still breaking in these additions, so who knows where this is going, but for now it feels pretty meh, and it’s going to take time before all of the traditional B1G schools have even played the newcomers both home and away.

The Pac-12 arrivals are still in their “new” phase, and it might last a while because the length of the season dictates that every team plays an incomplete conference schedule.

Getting back to the fun, it was a blast seeing how the new kids on the block would fare in their first season of Big Ten football, and they had extremely mixed results. Each new environment is fun at first when conference standings are on the line, and it’s cool to learn about traditions and history one has either no prior knowledge or an incomplete understanding of.

On the other hand, the fun can wear off​


Few would say that the OSU-PSU rivalry isn’t still fun. That has grown organically and has been helped by:

  1. Being geographical neighbors.
  2. Both programs remaining relevant in the national picture.
  3. The teams playing such dramatic and riveting games against each other.

As I mentioned above, however, seeing Nebraska on the schedule doesn’t move the needle for me anymore. The Huskers are more compelling than some longtime B1G programs, but there’s still probably more juice for me in defeating a depleted Michigan State team than Nebraska. That’s not a knock on them. Old feelings linger and there is far more recent animosity with the Spartans than with the Cornhuskers.

I’ll be honest and say the weirdness of adding Rutgers and Maryland did not produce the same level of fun — even in the first couple of years — that Penn State and Nebraska did. And now, seeing those two schools on the schedule is no different than playing Purdue or Northwestern, except those feel more like Big Ten games to me than facing the Scarlet Knights or Terrapins.

Maryland v Rutgers
Photo by Rich Schultz/Getty Images
Tradition? History? Rivalry? Meh.

Going beyond fun…​


Unbalanced schedules, not seeing certain teams for multiple years, and having to plan around maximum time zone differences is problematic. It can dilute, rather than promote, rivalries and make existing ones disadvantageous if protected. After all, when some teams may have an easier path to a conference title, it’s a detriment to have two massive rivalry games as “protected” rivalries.

That promotes an unlevel playing field and one that can shift quickly if programs fall off or others rise, which was shown in the disparity between the two divisions when the Big Ten had them. (RIP, Leaders and Legends.)

As a fan of college football beyond my favorite team, it’s sad to see what happened to the Pac-12, and it feels like the Big XII has become an unrecognizable blob of randomness. Time moves on, but neutering tradition feels like killing the golden goose.

Conferences other than the Big Ten and SEC may provide challengers and great teams, but this sport feels like it belongs to those two entities now, and that’s largely because of all the teams/schools they’ve assimilated along the way.

And assimilated is how it feels. It’s like two giant Borg ships snapping up all the resources, or if you’re not a Star Trek nerd like me, it’s college football colonialism. It feels a bit icky to me and, if I’m being honest, less special.



What do you think of the concept of super conferences? Is it good for the sport? Bad? Does it not matter at all to you? Am I just an old, spewing his get-off-my-lawn philosophies (this is a trick question, because the obvious answer is yes, but that doesn’t invalidate the viewpoint).

Let us know what you think in the comments section below.

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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

Sorry, but besides that there’s no natty to take away for that, besides the likely 2012 one that they didn’t get to play for, what punishment hasn’t already been levied for a far less significant underlying offense?
Yea, as someone in the "these guys should have been getting paid the whole time" camp, I frankly could give a hell about eligibility issues. That includes tatgate, but extends to guys like Reggie Bush and Charles Woodson.

On field cheating is a different ballgame entirely.
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ttun recruiting (all classes)

It's almost June and they only have 6 commits with only 1 being in the top 200.

They aren't really looking very great for any other top 200 players currently outside of 2 OL

So much for that "unlimited money cannon"

They also claimed to WRs were going to be pushing to the front of the line to play with Underwood, that's also been determined to be a big lie.

Also predictably Tony Alford has already whiffed on all their top RB targets.

The only other guy I can find that they are recently trending for is DL Ben Boulware (according to on3), whos #501 overall and the #59 DL in the 247 composite
I hate defending those clowns, but they had less than 6 commits at this point last year I believe and finished with a decent class. Maybe recruits are waiting to see what is going to happen with the NCAA.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

What tCun has done is between 10 times and 100 times worse, but when comparisons like that list are done, I just don’t want tOSU’s transgressions to be ignored or denied, so we’re not in the ‘our shit doesn’t stink’ aspect of their delusional fans.

Thank you.

Just like Harbaugh, Tressel had NCAA rules (at the time) broken under his watch.
Just like Harbaugh, Tressel lied to the NCAA about it.

Unlike the Harbaugh situation, once it got past the football facility OSU University leadership stepped in, played the role of adult and put an end to the bullshit. They did not allow football to put University resources at risk.

tsun, on the other hand, doubled the fuck down...SEC/old SWC style which ultimately puts the University mission at risk because of liabilities arising from this lack of leadership.

I continue to beat the drum pointing out that a University's mission and a pro sport entity's mission can be adjacent strategies but they cannot ever be core to each other. Education is the only thing that can lift the human condition in the long run. They should be plentiful and successful to reach the most lives possible. They should never be put at risk for professional sports.

As we witness this move to professionalism, don't wax nostalgic for the good old days that never really were. Embrace the new reality shedding more light on the misalignment and push anyway you can for the pro football teams to be split free from the Universities. It will be better for everyone.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

This is what has truly blown my mind about this whole thing - the cheating is what it is; a failing coach was backed into a corner decided he couldn't get the job done on the level and decided to cut corners to win. That's bad, really bad, but the fire could have been contained. Instead, the most snooty school in the country did everything it could to conceal, obfuscate, and generally just be pains in the asses about it from the very top of the university proving themselves to not only be the type football factory they always turned their noses up at, but the very worst kind. That high horse they've climbed up in for decades has been burnt to ashes.
Ono is obviously a corrupt and terrible university President, but what I think allowed him to play this all out for so long is that tsun has a dysfunctional, rotten culture that simply can't conceive of themselves as ever being wrong...ever being the bad guy...ever not being superior to everyone else. They are image obsessed in a way that I don't think any other school in the country comes close to. They're not just obsessed with their image but actually deeply believe their manufactured self-image. Even when it was apparent that Ono wasn't up to the job and had completely fucked up the response to the football scandal, they reacted by giving him some ridiculous extension and raise. They couldn't look in the mirror and admit that they screwed up in hiring that clown; they doubled down on him. Same dynamic was in play when they just couldn't do what any other school in the country (even SEC schools) would have done with Juwan or the hockey coach.

It really was the perfect storm of that culture and a weird jock-sniffing President being in office when an imbecilic football coach decided to go on a three year cheating spree. Harbaugh's gone. Ono's gone. Their football program is about to be nuked by the NCAA. Yet, I really believe that none of it will change the culture up there. It's just too ingrained into who they are. They're incapable of any real introspection and learning from what's happened.

2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

Sorry, but besides that there’s no natty to take away for that, besides the likely 2012 one that they didn’t get to play for, what punishment hasn’t already been levied for a far less significant underlying offense?
What tCun has done is between 10 times and 100 times worse, but when comparisons like that list are done, I just don’t want tOSU’s transgressions to be ignored or denied, so we’re not in the ‘our shit doesn’t stink’ aspect of their delusional fans.
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