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OL Kirk Barton (Don't tase me Bro!)

I’ve been thinking about this tragic story off and on all day. As I said previously, I have dined with KB probably 4 or 5 times and happened to be on a flight to Vegas with him once by coincidence. We had mutual business contacts and partners. I also noticed his drinking problem and thought it basically confirmed what internet folks said he was like. But I actually witnessed it. And when I started tuning into his YouTube cast nightly around CFB playoff time and for the Michigan scandal updates, I saw that he definitely had a problem airing 2 casts in a row sober.

Then I decided I was going to approach him at one of the next dinners I had with him in attendance and ask him if he thought he had a drinking problem. I was going to try to intervene even though we’re definitely not friends. I was more of an interested observer trying to prevent what just happened SAturday morning. Unfortunately, that next time never came.

I feel like shit because I did not intervene despite being only acquaintances. Of course I don’t know how he would have taken any intervention let alone one from a not-quite friend. People - it is our duty to our fellow citizens to try to intervene in some sort of way to prevent this. Don’t miss the opportunity to save a life.
I get where you're coming from. Totally. I've stepped in two different times for people who needed to be helped. It's not easy and it can be very awkward. It even cost me a friendship from high school in one case, but the individual got the help he needed.

But you can't do this to yourself. It's not fair and you don't deserve it.

The individuals I did it for were both friends and people I'd known personally for a while. As you said you and KB were passing acquaintances but not much beyond that. It sucks and I totally understand playing the "what-if" game, but you don't deserve the guilt you're putting yourself through.

KB had dozens (if not more) people in his life who have seen this for years/decades and it seems none of them stepped in that we know of - and if they did, point #2, KB brushed them off - meaning he didn't want the help or didn't see the problem. As has been stated, no matter what you do or how persuasive you can be, there's nothing to be done unless that individual wants to help themselves out.

It's an absolute tragedy this kid died. Two lives ended Saturday night. But none of that is on you man. There's nothing you could have done short of taking KB's keys Saturday night and preventing him from getting behind the wheel.

Ohio State Wrestling (2015/2017/2018 B1G Champs, 2015 National Champs, 2019 National Runners-up)


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Swing for the fences here and see what happens. My contact said Ryan should be in touch soon if they haven't already. I'm not getting excited yet, but we should be a real contender.
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What kind of car do you drive?

Wish had seen this thread couple of years ago. Just got back from C'bus visiting daughter. Noticed her car was dingy, with lots of strange streaks. Well, turns out that when visited in Nov/Dec of couple of years, did the Daddy thing, and washed (soapy wand place), and then waxed in her garage. Also turns out that did a sub-standard job in the cold, and the wax built up and left residue when tried to rub off. Clearly a polisher would have helped. Anyway, a gearhead friend suggested one of those spray-on waxes (Meguires, or Griots). Did so, and rubbed all that built up wax and dirt right off. Apparently the spray-on wax emulsified the build-up/dirt, but left me with two very tired arms. Anyway, her car gleams now, and got a 'thanks Dad', so guess was all worth it...

You’re a good man for doing that by hand. No way I’d even try. I’m immediately calling in power tools or a professional with power tools. :wink:
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

What an embarrassment. I won't go back and find the posts, but I'm pretty sure I predicted that tsun would regret hiring that clown. I just had no idea that he would flame out so spectacularly while leaving the foosball in ruins. He fucking delivered.
Hurricane Ono. He blew and blew and blew (the football team. Allegedly.)
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

Santa Ono is not returning to Michigan.

Oh no!

I'll see myself out.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

Santa Ono is not returning to Michigan.

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Cleveland Browns (Factory of Sadness)

Those two will perform better than him if given a chance. What are the odds that happens?
The first week? 100%. Maybe even leading up to the first preseason game. But then the ZOMG WE WANT SHEDEUR chants in the stands and mouth-breathers on the radio will take over halfway through the third quarter, he will go in there and make 2 impressive throws against guys who will be bagging groceries in 3 weeks, and then ZOMG WE HAVE TO PUT HIM IN THERE because Stefanski doesn't want to piss off Jimmah, and he'll be starting game 2.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

Santa Ono is not returning to Michigan.


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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

Santa Ono is not returning to Michigan.

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