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Game Thread #1 Texas at #2 tOSU, Sat. Aug. 30th, 12pm ET, FOX

I think the hype machine around Arch meets the fistfuls of quarters known as reality.

Who’s the back up? I ask because Arch lasted what, 2 carriers before he left clearly concussed last time?

Trying to be Tebow and not being the physical specimen that Tebow was is a dicey strategy

Arch didn't look particularly impressive either when they tried playing him against teams that weren't awful Miss State and Texas San Antonio defenses

86 of his 108 total rushing yards came in those games specifically

If he was truly some world shattering force he woulda gotten more play.

He's "more experienced" than Sayin (not saying much though) but I definitely would not trade Sayin for him.
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Deaths Of Notable Sports Figures (R.I.P.)

Diogo Jota dies in car crash :huh:

Liverpool forward Diogo Jota, brother die in car crash​

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Jul 3, 2025, 04:56 AM ET

Liverpool and Portugal forward Diogo Jota and his brother, André Silva, were killed in a car crash near Zamora, Spain, police said Thursday.
Liverpool FC, Portuguese Prime Minister Luís Montenegro and the Portuguese Football Federation (FPF) also confirmed the incident.
The Spanish Civil Guard confirmed to The Associated Press that Jota and his brother were found dead after their car went off a road on an isolated stretch of highway about an hour west of Zamora. Authorities said the car -- a Lamborghini, according to police -- was in flames.
Firefighters were called in as the fire spread to nearby vegetation, authorities said.
I'm struggling a bit with this narrative, which reads as those firefighters were going to let it burn itself out. But then it spread to the vegetation.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

I remember getting hit with "gobshite" in a pub in the UK back when I was stationed there circa 2001 and thinking "my God, these brits operate at a very high level." That's fairly commonplace now, but in 2001 that was some hoverboard shit.
Trying to match insults with a Brit is like trying to run a marathon against a Kenyan. I will say that my folks (Jews) can bring the insult heat too, but the best stuff is Yiddish curse phrases more so than creative portmanteaus.
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Columbus Blue Jackets (Official Thread)

Good article that provides some insight to what Blue Jackets GM Don Waddell has been up to:

Five thoughts after an underwhelming start to the Blue Jackets’ offseason

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By now, the relative quiet of the Columbus Blue Jackets’ offseason is likely sinking in with most of the fan base. There’s still a lot of summer to go, but it looks as if the Jackets’ changes will be more subtle than sweeping.

We’ve had some time to think about the moves that GM Don Waddell was able to swing, along with the ones he didn’t pull off and the ramifications of those moves/non-moves that followed. There’s always more than meets the eye, and that’s what we’re trying to scratch at here.

Here’s a closer look at five topics we’ve been thinking about over the last week:

What the Noah Dobson talks revealed

We couldn’t have known it at the time, but the way the trade of defenseman Noah Dobson played out last Friday — he was sent from the New York Islanders to the Montreal Canadiens — revealed the answers to two questions that lingered before the offseason carnival started.

First, that the Blue Jackets’ two first-round draft picks were not enough, either alone or together, to swing a trade for an impact player. Both the Blue Jackets and Canadiens were required to throw in a roster player. For Montreal, that ended up being forward Emil Heineman. For the Blue Jackets, that, reportedly, would have been Dmitri Voronkov.

The second part of this requires a delicate touch.

Dobson, who is from Prince Edward Island, Canada, wanted to play for the Montreal Canadiens. It’s likely not that he didn’t want to play in Columbus, just that he preferred Montreal, one of the marquee cities in the country of his birth.

That scenario played out in a couple of other instances, too.

The Blue Jackets would have put a massive contract offer on the table for 100-point winger Mitch Marner, but Marner made it clear that he wanted to sign with the Vegas Golden Knights. His former club, the Toronto Maple Leafs, agreed to a sign-and-trade with the Golden Knights.

Meanwhile, the Blue Jackets were involved in trade talks for defenseman Rasmus Anderson, who would have been a perfect fit on the second pair opposite young Denton Mateychuk. Anderson, who has one year remaining on his contract with the Calgary Flames, apparently has made it clear that he’d only entertain a contract extension with … you guessed it, Vegas. (He remains with the Flames.)

Columbus and the Blue Jackets are not seen by most NHL players as a city or franchise to be avoided. For proof, look at the two players acquired from the Colorado Avalanche, late last week. Both Charlie Coyle and Miles Wood had modified no-trade clauses in their contract, meaning they could list a number of clubs to which they couldn’t be traded.

Neither Coyle (10 teams) nor Wood (eight) had Columbus on their no-trade lists.

In summary, the Blue Jackets are not being avoided like the plague. But, they are not a marquee franchise yet, either.

Provorov’s signing became imperative

It’s clear that Waddell’s honeymoon, for many Blue Jackets fans, has ended. He, along with other GMs, clearly misread what this year’s market was going to be, how few players would change teams, and how the NHL’s rising salary cap would flatten the market by allowing teams to keep more of their players.

But once it became clear that Waddell wasn’t going to land a right-shot defenseman for his top four — Dobson being traded elsewhere, Andersson limiting the Flames’ trade partners, and perhaps others — he circled back to get serious about negotiations with defenseman Ivan Provorov.

When talks resumed on the other side of the draft, with Provorov only hours away from hitting the open market, the player had all of the leverage. The ticket: seven years, $59.5 million

At that point, the Blue Jackets had no choice but to sign him to a contract, because the worst possible scenario is not what happened with the free-agent and trade markets. No, the worst scenario Waddell faced on his blue line was failing to land any of those targets and allowing Provorov to leave via free agency.

Here’s another perspective on Provorov’s contract.

When Provorov signed a six-year, $40.5 million contract with the Philadelphia Flyers in 2019, the salary cap for the upcoming season was $81.5 million. That means Provorov’s salary cap hit, $6.75 million, occupied 8.2 percent of the salary cap.

The deal he signed on Tuesday, which carries an $8.5 million cap hit, occupies 8.9 percent of the salary cap ($95.5 million) this coming season. The NHL has already set the salary cap for the two seasons following the upcoming campaign. It’ll be $104 million in 2026-27 and $113.5 million in 2027-28, which means Provorov will eat 8.2 percent and 7.5 percent, respectively.

The lesson: we should be prepared for skyrocketing NHL salaries.

Oversell, underdeliver

Blue Jackets fans came into this summer on a high note, not just because the Blue Jackets finished last season on a burner and nearly made the playoffs, but because Waddell was making clear his plans to add significant pieces to the roster with an aggressive approach.

Dreams of top-six wingers, a top-four defenseman and a new starting goaltender swirled through their daydreams. Instead, they got three bottom-six forwards: Coyle, Wood and Isac Lundestrom, to replace the outgoing Justin Danforth, Sean Kuraly and James van Riemsdyk.

It’s an agitated fan base right now.

But once the disappointment fades in the searing heat of late July and August, most Blue Jackets fans will come back to the realization that this roster is still full of talent, and the reasons Waddell cited to believe that they can still be better next season are actually legitimate.

Young players — Adam Fantilli, Kirill Marchenko, Kent Johnson, Cole Sillinger, Dmitri Voronkov, Denton Mateychuk — already look like bona fide NHL players, and their profiles will continue to rise. Not every one of them in a perfectly straight, climbing trajectory, but logic dictates they’re still learning and growing.

This might be the biggest “everything is going to be OK” argument, and it’s something Waddell hinted at on the day free agency opened, when the Jackets re-signed Provorov: The Jackets’ top four — Zach Werenski with Dante Fabbro, Mateychuk with Provorov — wasn’t together all season. Fabbro was claimed on waivers in mid-November. Mateychuk didn’t come up until just before Christmas.

We went digging into this, and the numbers are dramatic

In the 41 games in which Werenski, Fabbro, Mateychuk and Provorov all dressed, the Blue Jackets went 26-13-2 (.658 points percentage) and allowed 2.95 goals per game. In the 41 games in which one or more were missing from the lineup, the Jackets went 14-20-7 (.427 points percentage) and allowed 3.56 goals per game.

The Damon Severson problem

One can imagine that nobody was more relieved by Provorov’s new contract than Damon Severson, who has not been able to find his groove in Columbus since he was traded to the Blue Jackets by New Jersey two seasons ago.

Severson, you’ll recall, was a healthy scratch 10 times last season, including the final eight games. That’s a hard pill to swallow for an organization that is paying Severson $6.75 million per season through 2030-31.

But after Provorov’s signing, Severson is now the third-highest-paid Blue Jackets defenseman, slotting behind Werenski and Provorov. That might sound like a minor issue, but Severson has been honest — especially in his first season in Columbus — about trying to live up to the contract Columbus bestowed upon him.

You can look at Severson from two different perspectives right now.

If he had played better his first two seasons in Columbus, they wouldn’t have been so driven to find a right-shot defenseman for their second pair. Severson, after all, is a right shot, and he was pursued by the Blue Jackets because then-GM Jarmo Kekalainen saw him as a top-four defender.

Now, though, the Blue Jackets are looking to shelter the player and put him in a lineup spot where he can succeed. They can’t trade his contract without eating a portion of the money he’s due or sweetening the offer with a draft pick or a prospect. They have to find a way to make this work.

As of now, you would expect him to start the season on the third pair with veteran Erik Gudbranson.

Goaltending remains biggest issue

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tOSU Recruiting Discussion

This isn’t the young minds pushing anything. Teenage boys are still idiots. It’s the adults pushing the envelope. The NIL collectives know that they’re a separate entity from the salary cap rules that have just been enacted for programs. That’s why we’re seeing the massive deals from Oregon, USC, scUM, Texas Tech, aTm, etc. None of that money is coming from the schools but from the independent collectives. There’s still no rules on collectives, I saw this coming even when the House settlement was signed. Because they never have direct rules to collectives, and those boosters almost all have attorneys to make sure they can still steer talent to their school

Keep in mind the only envelope being pushed is the Universities pushing the SCOTUS ruling and trying to make rules that restrict what private, tax paying U.S. citizens can earn.

There should be no rules until the players are allowed to collectively bargain with the powers that be.
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Cincinnati Reds (2025 is our year! Haha thats actually funny)

It's because I bet the under.
true story.. was watching some of the stuff about gambling being taxed thanks to the parlimentarian or something with this new bill.. i barely use draft kings but i knew i had some money sitting in there.. so i figured id double it up and get out now or just lose it.. looked through available bets.. reds had abbott going, so shouldnt be too many runs but i dont trust them to win... ever.. and i figured what are the odds of them having an offensive explosion the under seemed like a safe bet sitting at 8.. so of course the reds score 9 themselves..
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Amount of posts about Ojo: nil

I don't know if there's really a direct comparison. The economics of both sports are entirely different not to mention the rules for eligibility surrounding them.

In baseball, if you want you can skip college entirely, get paid and go to short season rookie ball the moment you graduate high school. Football players don't have those options. The risks of injury are significantly higher in football, especially for a lineman as well.

I agree about the washout rate is overall higher in baseball, although I'd be willing to bet it's closer than you'd expect.
I think @Jaxbuck is saying, why is more risk for 1 17 than it is for the Other? At the end of the day MLB will have over a dozen teams draft unproven teenagers who may not even make the professional level sign contracts for 7 figures . In CFB, numerous unproven teenagers who may not make the NFL, will sign a contract making 7 figures. Not really much of a difference. Just like there unproven teenagers overseas who become professionals in soccer or tennis and they sign big deals and may not become successful

2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

wtf is "ledged"?

I don't think the NCAA will get involved with the Weiss stuff so long as there is an active lawsuit or investigation from outside parties going on.
1. alleged - I have already caught/fixed that one.
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The trial date for Matthew Weiss, the former University of Michigan football offensive coordinator, is set for November 4, 2025. This date was established after he waived his right to a speedy trial, according to The Detroit News. The trial will be held before the Honorable Nancy Edmunds in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan. A final pretrial conference is scheduled for October 7, 2025, at 2:00 PM.

Yeah, hopefully the case does go to trial (i.e. no plea bargain) and lots of incriminating evidence showing NCAA violations is presented during the trial, etc.
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tOSU Recruiting Discussion

Had a HS golfer, back in the day, that won more matches with his rulebook than he did with his sticks. Point being, that taking things to the edge seems to be the new normal. Give you last year's Oregon loss....always said I'll take the white and the gray, but won't venture into the black (illegal) areas of an issue. Guess some of the sharper young minds are making a living pushing the envelope.
This isn’t the young minds pushing anything. Teenage boys are still idiots. It’s the adults pushing the envelope. The NIL collectives know that they’re a separate entity from the salary cap rules that have just been enacted for programs. That’s why we’re seeing the massive deals from Oregon, USC, scUM, Texas Tech, aTm, etc. None of that money is coming from the schools but from the independent collectives. There’s still no rules on collectives, I saw this coming even when the House settlement was signed. Because they never have direct rules to collectives, and those boosters almost all have attorneys to make sure they can still steer talent to their school

2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

Anybody think the NCAA will do the "hat trick" of investigations for scUM's last football season?

NCAA investigation #1: Recruiting violations, i.e. Cheeseburger-gate

NCAA investigation #2: Sign stealing scheme.

Potential NCAA investigation #3: Assistant football coach Matt Weiss hacking into other schools computers. It is alleged that he hacked into Ohio State's "practice film" account. Regardless, even if he didn't; Penn State got screwed to the wall for a former assistant coach commiting a crime in the school's locker room/showers. Weiss is charged with committing a Federal crime while employed in scUM football program, on scUM premises, with scUM's computers, and undoubtedly with the knowledge of Harbaugh (however, he claims that he didn't know). Harbaugh's knowledge of Weiss's crime(s) is/are not required for a NCAA violation as under NCAA rules.

Under NCAA rules, a head coach is generally held responsible for the actions of their program, even if they claim they were unaware of rule violations. This concept is often referred to as the "responsible head coach" doctrine.

NCAA Division I Bylaw 11.1.1.1 states that a head coach is presumed responsible for the actions of all staff members who report to them, either directly or indirectly. If a violation occurs within the program, the coach is automatically assumed responsible unless they can demonstrate the following:
  • An atmosphere of compliance was promoted: This includes establishing clear expectations for following rules and emphasizing ethical conduct within the team.
  • The activities of their staff were monitored: The coach must show reasonable steps were taken to oversee staff actions to ensure adherence to NCAA rules.
The NCAA holds head coaches accountable for their program's overall compliance, making "plausible deniability" largely ineffective.

Screw Blue! - How we really feel about that school up north in Ann Arbor!
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What kind of car do you drive?

Man. I just put a over the rearview mirror dashcam with rear camera (plus backup lines wired into the reverse lights) in my kid's '05 X3. Put an OEM 1/4 inch aux jack in it a couple years ago plus a Bluetooth dongle and there's not a whole lot at age 20 it can't do that most new cars can.

Now. I have replaced both front and rear drive shafts, full brakes twice, the entire intake side, most of the cooling system, starter (not super fun!), coils and plugs twice, new fluid in the transfer cases etc, and got lucky with that red shit you put in ac to seal it. Ok fine the panoramic sunroof is closed and will remain that way, and its always been in a light mileage demand role for our family, but I guess its got 160k on it ot now and even if I pay myself $100 an hour plus parts, I bet I only have 20 or 22 $1000 payments in the thing. It's only ever been to a shop for tires.
Sounds like something I would do. I just did both axles and transfer case fluid in my 07 Tundra, since it tows my bass boat and snowmobiles (plows snow too). It gets oil undercoated every year, and it does not look like an 07. The fact that it has zero electronics is a huge deal for me. No carpet or electric windows either.

When it's 55K for a new one, I'll just keep replacing parts-unless it's rusty, then all bets are off. I will probably fly our west and drive a late 90s 4runner home when I'm due for another car.
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2026 TX OL Felix Ojo (Texas Tech Verbal)

For perspective, MLB will have it's draft next Sunday.

Overall #1 slot is over $11MM and could very well be a 17 year old HS kid who has never played an inning of professional baseball. In fact 15 or more 17 year old HS kids are about to be millionaires and they will (likely) have a higher wash out rate in minor league baseball than elite HS football players will have in CFB (by my unofficial count).

Maybe paying the market rate for top talent is such a bold move as it is the price of playing poker?

We shall see.
I don't know if there's really a direct comparison. The economics of both sports are entirely different not to mention the rules for eligibility surrounding them.

In baseball, if you want you can skip college entirely, get paid and go to short season rookie ball the moment you graduate high school. Football players don't have those options. The risks of injury are significantly higher in football, especially for a lineman as well.

I agree about the washout rate is overall higher in baseball, although I'd be willing to bet it's closer than you'd expect.
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