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Alabama Crimson Tide (official thread of Football, Fake Championships and Banjo)

Until BK can show that he can’t stop stepping on his dick until his face turns purple I’ll believe that we’ll beat Bama
he’s already beaten Bama at home once.

and scored almost twice as many points in that one game than the previous neanderthal did in all 3 of his Bama home games combined.
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

What's interesting... posts blaming everyone who had some minor part in this loss... but THE ONE main reason we lost has been mostly ignored in this thread and on this site
Interested to hear what that reason is. Can’t think of much that hasn’t been dissected 8D
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

But that’s the reported infighting at the Woody. LJ doesn’t like Knowles’ 4-2 scheme. In a traditional 4-3, the OLB can set the edge. In a 4-2, the DE has to set the edge. You can’t really turn the DE’s loose if setting the edge is their primary responsibility.
Apparently Birm has said last night that there's no cohesion in the defensive coaching, that they all go about their own way in terms of what they tell their respective units. Quite the mess if that's the case.
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*2024 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

They know. They're just choosing to willfully ignore it because - 1) it diminishes the only 3 seasons worth a dam they've had in a quarter century, and 2) they know that their world is about to come crumbling down around them because of it. If they don't talk about it, it ain't there.

This isn't just one or two guys or a faction of their fanbase, it's EVERYONE. They simply do not acknowledge it. Part of it I'm sure is because anytime one of them starts to turn self aware and brings it up, the MoE quickly zaps the offending post
Maybe some of the ones whose entire lives aren't wrapped up in being a tcun fan. For a lot of them, I really do believe that they are truly delusional and no amount of evidence will get them to process that it was because of the cheating. And of course, you have zero leadership and self-awareness coming out of the university administration, so there's no splash of reality coming from inside the building. No matter what the NCAA eventually releases, they'll say it was all a conspiracy to get Harbaugh and tsun, and they'll believe it.

Hell, we had some too. Tressel didn't lie to keep his players eligible; he was secretly working for the FBI. There was a perfectly reasonable explanation for why Urban scrubbed his cell phone. And I believe that they sincerely believed it with every fiber of their being. The foosball can be fun, but for some it can just melt their fucking brains.
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

What's interesting... posts blaming everyone who had some minor part in this loss... but THE ONE main reason we lost has been mostly ignored in this thread and on this site
Little things happen to both teams. In the end it was bad clock management and in my book that's lays at the feet of the head coach.
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

But that’s the reported infighting at the Woody. LJ doesn’t like Knowles’ 4-2 scheme. In a traditional 4-3, the OLB can set the edge. In a 4-2, the DE has to set the edge. You can’t really turn the DE’s loose if setting the edge is their primary responsibility.
Have heard this before and that’s really on Day for handcuffing Knowles if true.
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

I know, that’s why I’m going to file that under crazy ass shit. It was an opportunity that we missed out on that, had it just gone for a FG, would have been a difference maker.

Also why I consider It to be a team loss. Far too many examples of “just one thing” being different and we’d have a different outcome. That’s notwithstanding the instances that Oregon had that were similar… but it certainly felt like we had more than our fair share of those things.
There were a lot of little things but in the end they were right there with an opportunity tin win on the road against the #3 team in the country.They simply SCed it
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*2024 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

But do they? So many of their fans still believe that the cheating had little to do with them winning. They also believe that Harbaughs a god and that no one is more important to their success than him. All you have to do is read their message boards to see this. They have their heads buried so far in the sand that is comical.
They know. They're just choosing to willfully ignore it because - 1) it diminishes the only 3 seasons worth a dam they've had in a quarter century, and 2) they know that their world is about to come crumbling down around them because of it. If they don't talk about it, it ain't there.

This isn't just one or two guys or a faction of their fanbase, it's EVERYONE. They simply do not acknowledge it. Part of it I'm sure is because anytime one of them starts to turn self aware and brings it up, the MoE quickly zaps the offending post
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

For all the gnashing of teeth over Knowles, if there's one defensive coach that should be on the hot seat, it's LJ. Neither Sawyer nor JTT bothered to show up last night. In fact, both have historically been completely hot and cold from one week to the next. Overall last night for the team: 0 sacks and only 2 TFL. Maybe LJ really was this DL savant or maybe he just recruited three generational talents in a row in the Bosa Brothers and Young.

And that doesn't even factor in the rumors that he refuses to play nice with the person who's supposed to be his boss.

I feel like if you don't have generational talent on the d-line, you have to scheme more to open up the pass rush. You can coach individuals up but at the end of the day opposing teams are going to figure out how to protect their QB with the O-line and RBs/TEs especially if you aren't going to confuse them with who you are sending.

Missed assignments help to create a pass rush. If you refuse to make the O-line communicate and question who is coming then they can settle in and just keep doing the same assignment play after play.

Beating your guy is only part of the equation with pass rush. Its alot easier to beat your guy when they get concern about another guy or if the guy next to them is going to make the right decision to help or not.
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

But that’s the reported infighting at the Woody. LJ doesn’t like Knowles’ 4-2 scheme. In a traditional 4-3, the OLB can set the edge. In a 4-2, the DE has to set the edge. You can’t really turn the DE’s loose if setting the edge is their primary responsibility.
Interesting. I didn't understand that. Thanks.
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC


There is some saying about talk being cheap and I think it applies here. I want the confidence but if there is no execution, then it is simply talk.
I quit paying attention to the noise from the coaches during spring practice and fall camp. Day always says cute little shit ahead of big games. Walk the talk for once.
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

For all the gnashing of teeth over Knowles, if there's one defensive coach that should be on the hot seat, it's LJ. Neither Sawyer nor JTT bothered to show up last night. In fact, both have historically been completely hot and cold from one week to the next. Overall last night for the team: 0 sacks and only 2 TFL. Maybe LJ really was this DL savant or maybe he just recruited three generational talents in a row in the Bosa Brothers and Young.

And that doesn't even factor in the rumors that he refuses to play nice with the person who's supposed to be his boss.
But that’s the reported infighting at the Woody. LJ doesn’t like Knowles’ 4-2 scheme. In a traditional 4-3, the OLB can set the edge. In a 4-2, the DE has to set the edge. You can’t really turn the DE’s loose if setting the edge is their primary responsibility.
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

I'm not going to rehash most of the many shortcomings you guys have already pointed out.

I will say, I think for both the players and coaches, I think this is the best possible time for the bye week.

It was just a sloppy game with shitty adjustments and they were from all the usual reasons, poor in game coaching, lack of discipline and the environment in the stadium (and the shit OPI)

But, we can't have dumb penalties (which had not been a problem), lose turnovers, manage the clock like ass and win against good teams on the road (and look, the missed kicks were not as big as that shank turned onside kick, I don't personally think Oregon deserves all that much credit and I think Lanning is a tool.)

Everyone part of the program needs to execute better, all 3 units, all the coaches, everyone. The defense needs to decide if its going to limit big plays or get the football. The offense needs to figure out how its going to account for the defense being able to dictate pressure because they're not scared of the deep ball. But mostly we need to build confidence based on sound execution and leadership.

We're going to have a pretty good idea on Nov 2 if we applied the lessons learned here or not. I realize everyone wants to get back after it but I think a week of camp can help.
What’s disappointing about what you have accurately described here is the fact that our OC and DC are some of the most experienced coaches in CFB, as is LJ. And Day’s not inexperienced either.

To listen to these coaches say we have to do better, coach better, etc. after a loss is just such a WTF comment. I really wonder if they don’t know how to adjust in game, with the experience they have, what are they really going to do to change anything.
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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

If Howard throws the out it's a 47-49 yarder instead. Much more makeable.
If the DBs know that there is only 6 seconds left then they can play very tight knowing that the ball has to be thrown almost when Will Howard get the ball from the center. I don't think that throw would have worked. Best plan would have been to call the timeout and scheme up a hail mary type of play if you don't think your kicker can make the field goal. There were no good options with 6 seconds left.
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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

I agree with everything here except trying a 55 yard FG, Fielding can't hit from that distance so you might as well just throw a Hail Mary really. But all of the other points you brought up led to that scenario and were absolutely fucking mind numbing. I highlighted your second point - he had to rely on the pass to get that spot in the field, but then you run the ball, spike it, and have a very easy kick.

At that stage of the game, take what it does to just simply win and get out, not go for the jugular airing it out with a QB that was up and down all night. Run it with either Trey and Quin, and even if you get no yards you still have a great shot at game-winning FG. Ryan Day outthinking himself despite the absurd amount of resources he has is a recurring theme that I am pretty much done with unless he wins out and makes a run at the Natty. It is a fair point to say "well who would be better", but Day is just not cutting it in games that matter.

Howard threw for over 300 yards with 2 TD and no interceptions, and he got the ball into JJ and Egbuka's hands regularly (combined for just under 200 yds with 2TD). His QB rating last night was higher than Gabriel's. I can see Trey, but Quin had a horrible game last night and averaged 1.9 yards a carry. I love the kid so far this year, but last night Oregon had his number, and he wasn't the solution to anything.
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Game Thread #2 tOSU at #3 Oregon, Sat. Oct. 12, 7:30 pm ET, NBC

For all the gnashing of teeth over Knowles, if there's one defensive coach that should be on the hot seat, it's LJ. Neither Sawyer nor JTT bothered to show up last night. In fact, both have historically been completely hot and cold from one week to the next. Overall last night for the team: 0 sacks and only 2 TFL. Maybe LJ really was this DL savant or maybe he just recruited three generational talents in a row in the Bosa Brothers and Young.

And that doesn't even factor in the rumors that he refuses to play nice with the person who's supposed to be his boss.
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