I'm willing to bet that many people on this board have either participated, or come damn close to participating, in many of the moral behaviors discussed. I think the problem arises when people put sports people on a pedestal and then expect them to act according to the moral compass that they think people on that pedestal should follow. I want to be clear...Vrabel's behavior suggests that he does not interpret the importance of several values in the same way as many people here do...and further that he is going down a path that will lead ultimately to some serious issues in his life. If this is true, it will probably affect his performance as a coach, at least for a period of time.

We know what wins in the end, almost all of the time.

Thump said:

Bagmen.

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From what I've read Vandy's offer was substantially higher than the others.

Which is cheaper, paying for 2-3 years of development or signing a MAC TE and paying him for a year or two?

It’s just my opinion…..I get it.

Russini has now resigned from her job while Vrabel marches on. I guess it probably impacts her more as a journalist…..the impropriety of it all makes her look terrible.

On the Treyveon situation though……I don’t think Vrabel is now incapable of giving advice or being a team leader…it’s more nuanced though, IMO. He loses credibility in the locker-room when he’s out making shitty decisions.

Again, I’m a huge Vrabel fan…..but he does dumb shit at times and this is the latest occurrence. For those who’ve forgotten, Google “Mike Vrabel snack bar arrest”.

Well that's dumb. That's like saying someone can't help you study for a math test because they failed a science test. Unless Vrable said "you have to listen to me because I'm a perfect person....", one has nothing to do with the other.

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Fucking Cleveland 2 run HR in the &th and then Brito boots the 3rd out to score a run for the tie. Then can’t score in the 10th and allow St Louis a wp then sac fly. Most frustrating 2 innings I’ve seen in a while. Just gave them the game

iambrutus said:

still annoys the fuck out of me that those 2 plays from Cruz weren't ruled errors

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Right???

First play in game was fire. Hornets 127 Heat 126 in OT. Enjoy seeing Miami out.

Reportedly there is a 65% increase in price in the basketball portal compared to one year ago (i.e., a player valued at $1M/yr in 2025 is now at $1.65M/yr). An additional insight is that bigs are being paid $1M/yr more than other positions, suggesting perhaps the most plausible way to build a successful roster with limited resources would involve finding a token big man and investing in elite guards/wings instead.

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One last steaming turd to end the season.

Bagmen.

BB73 said:

That period of probation will end within a couple of months of his 2-year show cause penalty.

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Being able to cross state lines and not being barred from working in your industry anymore are big events in some peoples lives.

BuckBackHome said:

Ex-Michigan coach Sherrone Moore gets probation for misdemeanors

Former Michigan football coach Sherrone Moore was sentenced to 18 months' probation Tuesday for misdemeanors related to a confrontation with his executive assistant.

www.espn.com

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That period of probation will end within a couple of months of his 2-year show cause penalty.

$275 million seems like a lot for a 1,600 seat auditorium. But then again, I think $105 is a lot for a polo shirt, so what do I know?

BuckeyeNation27 said:

Because those two things have nothing to do with each other?

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No, they do. Especially when you come at it with a 'faith backed' approach.

I'm positive Trey hasn't been a shining example of Christianity (I was raised in just this environment. Athletics+baptist church+ football) Just as Vrabes hasn't been a shining example of morality with potential infidelity.

But people love looking to others hearts before their own.

Truth be told, both of our Buckeyes, like 75% of most people, are probably full of shit.

A few phone calls a few hours early? Let’s vacate some wins.

On field cheating for dozens of games over a 3-year period, followed by a long period of stonewalling the NCAA? Just pay a fine and keep those wins.

Fuck you, NCAA.

Folks should demand a financial investigation into the B1G and NCAA administrators who were involved with the TCUN decision to see if they received any unexplained deposits or personal benefits. The cheaters may have bought that ruling.

calibuck said:

Dunno, the way he hit the big stick yesterday, all day, seemed to be the best solution, until it wasn't. Not that I'm near that level, but if you've been doing it, why would you change. Playing if soft, or safely, means you are overthinking it, and have seen that crater more often than not. Golf is not a game where you can 'guide' the ball, you must put your best swing on it at all times. Anyway, he exhibited all day that he has all the shots, and some he made from the boonies were tremendous. Tip of the hat to Rory.

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Sorry, I just can’t buy that. As he approached the tee on 18, the only 2 ways he could lose the tournament was if Cameron Young holed out for an eagle (about 1000 to 1), or if Rory got a double bogey or worse.

The 18th is only a 465 yard par 4, and has a narrow fairway with trouble on either side. A 320-yard drive isn’t needed to par the hole, but an accurate drive is essential in avoiding big numbers. And Rory was a guy who was 90th out of 91 golfers in hitting fairways over the first two days! And now he’s dealing with the pressure of trying to close it out.

He had played well being aggressive from 7 through 17 (4 under for 11 holes), but he needed two great chips to par 16 and 17. He didn’t need a birdie or even a par on 18, he just needed to avoid disaster.

It‘s a similar situation to protecting a lead in football or basketball. A football team might have a strength of throwing the ball, but if they have a lead late they run the ball to close out the game by reducing the chances of disaster and shortening the game. And a basketball team that likes to run and gun, if they aren’t idiots, quit jacking up quick 3s when they have a multi-possession lead in the last minute. It doesn’t maximize their points per possession, but it decreases the chances of blowing the lead at the end of the game.

There are famous situations of folks not closing out contests by failing to be wisely conservative at the end of sporting events. Joe Pisarcik should have taken a knee against the Eagles in 1978; and Jean Van de Velde on the 18th hole at Carnoustie in 1999, where he hit driver with a 3-stroke lead, compounded his problems with his second shot, and lost in a playoff.

If Rory’s bad drive had ended up behind a tree, he could have lived to regret hitting the driver on 18 with a 2-stroke lead.

billmac91 said:

I disagree…..Vrabel low-key insulted Treyveon….he said he needs to educate himself on “inclusivity”.

And this is where Vrabel now loses tons of credibility….bc how is he going to tell a player to educate themselves on inclusivity when the player will just come back with “educate yourself on marriage”.

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Because those two things have nothing to do with each other?

billmac91 said:

I disagree…..Vrabel low-key insulted Treyveon….he said he needs to educate himself on “inclusivity”.

And this is where Vrabel now loses tons of credibility….bc how is he going to tell a player to educate themselves on inclusivity when the player will just come back with “educate yourself on marriage”.

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If people quit moralizing everything they could just have a grown up conversation.