Jaxbuck said:

Unless a kid is in that bubble of child of elite class-->going to elite U -->where they recruit for the elite six figure jobs right out of school then a "normal" kid is better off getting the degree (especially undergrad) as cheaply as possible. The name on the certificate means nothing.

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This is exactly how I see it with the additional exception that if a kid has a very specific talent or passionate interest in something, "elite U" might mean just an elite or unusual specialty program at an otherwise non-elite U, even if the initial money prospects aren't great. I do think that college is generally beneficial beyond just typically improving one's job prospects, but a lot of kids who aren't ready for it still think it's their only option when they could be better served to learn a skill or trade, or maybe do a few years in the military, first (or maybe long-term) if it turns out they like it. The son of my former office manager is making bank as a welder working in oil fields in the Dakotas, and has hardly any expenses as they cover his housing. It's probably hard to do that for a really long time (the office manager tells his son to learn everything and be the guy who owns the company not just the welder long-term), but if you do it for five years and bank away money in retirement accounts and/or for a house down payment well before you're 25, you're well ahead of most. College will still take your money later and you'll have a big maturity edge over others if you go back later (and you might get an employer to pay for it too ...).

DubCoffman62 said:

Why do so many women major in Education or Psychology? For what teachers are paid it doesn't seem worth it and the psychology market must be flooded. I think they end up baristas anyway.

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Maybe they know how hard @Thump mom has to work for twenty dollars and figure being a teacher isn't that bad?

iambrutus said:

I just got summoned for Federal Jury Duty, I was supposed to report this coming Monday, but got an email last night that its been rescheduled for July 13 - curious to see what happens

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Interesting! I've never been summoned for federal jury duty, although I clerked for a federal magistrate judge for a year after law school. I'm regularly summoned for state jury duty, but I've only been selected once and that case got dismissed after facts came out that made the plaintiff legally unable to win (in Colorado you're not liable if someone slips on the sidewalk in front of your place, even though you're supposed to shovel it if it snows, because it's public right of way, but you are if they slip on your driveway, and the plaintiff testified that he slipped on the sidewalk). I was once next in line to be questioned further for jury selection when the last alternate was selected from a pool of over 100 people for a case in which one neo-nazi type stabbed another neo-nazi type to death, allegedly in self-defense. That would surely have been interesting.

Dead program?

A college degree without a plan (e.g. graduate school, professional school, getting a degree in something like nursing or engineering that you can get a good tangible job with, etc.) is a waste of time and money in 2026. It can still be useful in many circumstances, but the days of it mattering in and of itself are clearly over. And the cost of "finding yourself" given that real professors hardly ever actually teach anymore is really, really hard to justify.

Jaxbuck said:

I don't know about necessary but it's getting harder and harder to justify the ROI.

Payoff at the end (realistic job/salaries) doesn't warrant the expense of the degree.

Unless a kid is in that bubble of child of elite class-->going to elite U -->where they recruit for the elite six figure jobs right out of school then a "normal" kid is better off getting the degree (especially undergrad) as cheaply as possible. The name on the certificate means nothing.

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Why do so many women major in Education or Psychology? For what teachers are paid it doesn't seem worth it and the psychology market must be flooded. I think they end up baristas anyway.

CincyInterloper said:

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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Of course not.

Before anyone wonders why Lock would offer another 2028 RB with Newman-Hall in the fold, he just broke Derrick Henry's single season rushing record. And if its also wondered what his connection to OH is, his dad is Marc Edwards(yeah, ND and Cincinnati's own). Kid is legit

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I see Carrolton and I immediately assume "Heavy Auburn Lean"

DubCoffman62 said:

Wrestling is gay AF and no one can convince me otherwise

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Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Bestbuck36 said:

He really deserves that 1000 yard, 10 touchdown kind of SR season. He's been a true Buckeye and is actually always freaking open!

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I think he's going to finally have way more opportunities. If he converts on it, I think he's in for that type of season...especially with post season.

calibuck said:

Gotta admit, never considered the prior recruiting of Day. Get to know the family, impress them, and then actually do/complete the promises made with the elder child. That's worth a ton or two of NIL $, and cannot be bought. Thanks for pointing that out. A very large arrow in the recruiting quiver. Another reason Day is making big bucks.

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I can always appreciate a kid wanting to take a different path and be unique. But he can still make his unique mark in Columbus with a proven system and WR track record. We still have to be a really attractive landing spot even without Hartline.

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Rico McCoy 2.0 better not be coming our way

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