brodybuck21 said:

Ive heard the same about both.

Side note, I recently watched the MLB Network special on TG from a couple years ago and man it sure was dusty in my living room.

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The song they did for TG was pretty good

Check out this video, "tony gwynn song" https://share.google/hNsQ1kzs7dmTvdpSg

Watched some of the NW/USC game last night and wow USC looked bad

TampaBuckeyes said:

Noncompetes are now illegal in the US, but I’m not sure this would qualify as a noncompete.

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you sure about that? They gave draft rules on it but then withdrew them... they are very much still legal... enforceable is another matter

OHSportsFan said:

And I’m sure he’ll be such a hard dedicated worker when he cashes that.

And then watch the teammates question it too. No thanks.

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Not to mention that you can buy 5 good OL for that price, and not upset the market in your locker room.

Or 1-2 good OL, and spend the other 3 on a true difference maker at DE, where the superstar is actually a giant difference vs the fairly good guy.

OSU didn't need seaton this year. They needed Darryl Baldwin or Josh Fryar. They need a guy like that next year, and might already have em.

buckeyebri said:

Not to get into a legal debate here, but haven’t non-competes been ruled to be unenforceable in many cases? Hasn’t it been ruled in these cases that you can’t prohibit someone from being employed in their field?

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Noncompetes are now illegal in the US, but I’m not sure this would qualify as a noncompete.

RhodeIslandBuck said:

Christ, forgot about those guys. Needless to say, I think the depth on the edge is legit.

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if we use it....

If players from teams like FSU who are nowhere close to us want to "use" us and then try to laugh.......uh, ok. Go for it.

Bestbuck36 said:

You forgot Smith and Russaw who are definitely going to be in the 2 deep. Injury free and we're golden up front and in the secondary. It's the LBs that have to make the jump

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Christ, forgot about those guys. Needless to say, I think the depth on the edge is legit.

BigWoof31 said:

Or Matt Ryan under Shanny 2015-2017
The healthiest stretch of his career.

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There's good reason why Matt hired a coach he would find most similar to Shanny in foundation.

I’ll prob get roasted for this, but I always thought if Justin Fields could get paired with Stefanski, it’d be by far, his best route to success. Even before the Browns traded for Watson, I made that point about Fields.

Stefanski’s system is incredibly easy to execute for a QB because it’s so reliant on the run game. The play action that comes off it makes it so there’s really onto (2) reads. If neither is open you find the check down, throw it away, or scramble.

It’s why the Browns coveted Watson and yet, it was so mind-numbingly stupid. You don’t need a $230M QB to operate Stefanski’s offense. The idea was Watson would add that physical ability to run if the defense took away the primary read. After his suspension though, Watson was an athletic shell of what he was in Houston.

Ideally, you pair a “relatively” average QB with Stefanski and use the remaining cap to build an elite O-line to run ball, and a stout defense.

The formula is simple. Of course, the Browns fucked it up.

Zurp said:

So, now that the SEC hasn't even been in the national title game in 3 years, what's their take? I'm sure it isn't "The Big Ten is better than us." I bet they're talking about their depth and how hard it truly is to win in their conference, and when they get to the playoff, they are just too beat up to continue.

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Three things are what I am reading and hearing.

1). For the first time in probably 25+ years, the B1G has the coaching advantage. Gone are the days of when it was Urban Meyer (and then a significant gap) and then somebody else.
Now, as these staffs are ultimately picked apart (as good staffs almost always are) we'll see if the advantages remain as robust as they are now. But outside of Kirby and Lane, I think the SEC's middle class of coaches has regressed.

2). If you're looking for the league to respond - they already have. Brian Kelly - gone, Billy Napier - gone, Hugh Freeze - gone, Sam Pittman - gone, Stoops - gone, KDB and Shane Beamer have the hottest of hot seats imaginable. Sark's has been turned up as well (although less hot than theirs.

3). The one I don't yet know the answer to is how the IU model will replicate moving forward. Michigan's success was discarded because they cheated, so there was no copy-cat method.
Ohio State's success is credited because they simply had better players than anyone and got lava hot at the exact right time (public opinion, not BigWoof sentiment). Hard for many to replicate.
IU is different though. Getting upperclassmen and loading a roster with experienced talent is one thing, coaching them up in an effective way is another.


Long story short - people will grumble and hibernate until baseball starts.

Zurp said:

With all due respect, because you have a good point. But...
1. I don't really care if the Big Ten trend continues. I just want Buckeye championships. Indiana, Purdue, Rutgers, Oregon, Washington, Nebraska - they're all the same: "Not Ohio State."
2. Fuck the cheaters and their 2023 championship.
3. I do dig that the SEC hasn't even been in the championship game for 3 straight years, though. But, to call back to #2, I'd have rather Alabama beat the cheaters in the semi-finals and made it to the championship that year.

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Agree with all this, especially point 2.

Feel like the media is trying to whitewash the Michigan cheating with claiming their championship is legit by grouping the B1G championships.

I'm not falling for it. They cheated, it's not legit

Tomateaux Quinoa Gumbeaux said:

Nootch congrats on being a grandad!

Has it made you nice enough to be kind to individual who tomato their gumbo?

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I said it made me nicer, not removed my moral compass.
you're going to perish in the deepest, darkest, fieriest pits of hell for your sins.

RhodeIslandBuck said:

I've been thinking about this a lot. KMac was an animal production wise but he truly was the anchor schematically.

I like the talent they've brought in on the edge and the interior. Intrigued to see how the defense changes with a very different set of personnel.

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The defensive identity revolved around him & Downs.

Now it's on Patricia to determine who is our best player up front & how do we build around him. Looking at relative skill set v strength, with Houston, Will 2.0 & KJ, likely back to more even fronts.