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B1G CCG: #1 tOSU vs #2 Indiana in Indy, Sat. Dec 6th, 8 ET on FOX

gregorylee
Gunlife said:
Like you said, now Saying is no longer a heisman candidate that is this freshman sensation, he is a imbattled QB with a chip on his shoulder. The rest of CFB better watch the fuck out, cause Day, Saying and Smith are coming for blood.
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This is something I am almost good with, they need to change the Heisman it shouldn't be while there are still games to play. IMO it definitely affected Troy Smith. Not that we would have beaten Fla that year anyway.
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B1G CCG: #1 tOSU vs #2 Indiana in Indy, Sat. Dec 6th, 8 ET on FOX

Mike80
Tanner said:
Just watched the play in the red zone where Sayin sprints to his left and has to throw an absolute dime to Smith and Smith has to do something special for it to have any chance. That's what we've got?
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This is part of my point - perfection is great and all, but when you rely on perfection, it's a low probability of success/low efficiency tactic.

On 1st down, it's not an awful playcall. On 3rd and 1, down 3, in the red zone, it's a godawful playcall.
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B1G CCG: #1 tOSU vs #2 Indiana in Indy, Sat. Dec 6th, 8 ET on FOX

Mike80 said:
We can think whatever we want - we're just fans. I can promise you Ryan Day doesn't think he's infallible.

If Sayin is the player we all think he is, he'll take this in stride as part of his growth as a QB. As good as he's been, as you said, he's just a freshman in experience. And it was about time SOMEONE pushed him to make adjustments, even TCUN didn't do that.
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I 100% agree Day doesn't think Sayin is infallible. Day basically took Sayin’s mind out of the game in the second half. Most plays they cut the field in half for him, or he literally had 1 read. ( he could have also run, which would have won us the game....)

You don't run like 5 or 6 boots for the first time all year, with 1 maybe 2 reads if you don't think your qb is a little out of his league. Why the fuck they ran those single read plays ( I actually think they were run/pass options and if Sayin runs on the second one we win) on 3rd and 1 in the red zone, I honestly have no idea.

Like you said, now Saying is no longer a heisman candidate that is this freshman sensation, he is a imbattled QB with a chip on his shoulder. The rest of CFB better watch the fuck out, cause Day, Saying and Smith are coming for blood.
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Notre Dame (football only discussion)

BuckeyeNation27
BigWoof31 said:
Used to be the “anytime, anywhere” team.

Would have loved to have seen them play Texas in a bowl game on NYD.

Sark and his boys are going. I can’t believe Marcus Freeman would bail like this
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I can. That guy just chameleons into whoever is paying him. You'd think he was born Marcus O'Brien the second he took that job.
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OC/WR Coach Brian Hartline (National Champion, HC at USF, Buckeye OC for this postseason)

BB73
I’m in the “Thanks for everything, good luck at USF” camp.

Indiana may have had an advantage in game prep last night since they had Purdue the week before when we had The Game, and they may have had less distractions during the week.

We’ve got 24 days to get ready. I’d prefer the same full-time group concentrate on aTm and Miami, with some GAs assembling film study and analyzing tendencies for future possibilities UGA, Indiana, Oregon, and Texas Tech. And the winner of Ole Miss and Tulane after that game happens.
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2025-2026 Ohio State Men's Basketball

buckeyemania11
DZ83CK said:
Reporters covering this team need to be really focusing on NIL, getting more info about where the resources are being allocated and how, and exactly what happened this past offseason. That's the real story behind the story of this team and its struggles, but Jake Diebler is going to take all the flack for it. Did OSU's hesitance to use collectives hold back this team with NIL? I think that there may be some truth to OSU having one hand behind their back compared to other programs, but we don't get much info on that.

Whatever they spent, it would make no sense if there was not a major decrease in the amount allocated on this team overall. They lost four guys that they had to commit significant NIL funds to (Meechie, Bradshaw, Stewart and Parrish) and added guys who mostly would not command much NIL (Cupps, Noel ... Tilly I believe as a non-American-born player was not eligible for substantial NIL anywhere). Ojianwuna had a season-ending injury and was obviously going to have a delayed start to this season, so it's doubtful there was any kind of bidding war for him. Bynum is the only guy that they brought in that might be getting some decent NIL, but even he was not a super high profile recruit. Where is the money? Is it all going to football? Did the impending Commission cause OSU to go overboard and prevent substantial NIL from being used? Clearly if they are investing in this team, it does not appear to be managed well at all. IMO, only Bruce Thornton and Devin Royal are worthy of high NIL deals, and everyone else should be getting near the minimum or not very much above it.

We may have to wait until next year to see if OSU is actually committed to using substantial NIL in basketball.
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It's possible for two things to be true here. The NIL Issue and Diebler just not being very good overall as a basketball coach. He's yet to show us anything to give confidence that he's not just a continuation of holtmann
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B1G CCG: #1 tOSU vs #2 Indiana in Indy, Sat. Dec 6th, 8 ET on FOX

GeorgiaBuck2
Julian will be fine. Considering the circumstances he played well imo. He was running for his life back there most of the first half. The pick was not the best read and by far the worst throw of the night. Most of his incompletions were throw aways, great defense by Indiana, or throwing up prayers at the end of the game. If the Oline plays just marginally better than the awful showing they had last night in the playoffs, and the play calling improves (crosses fingers), I think OSU will make some real noise.
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2025 tOSU Offense Discussion

Mike80
GeorgiaBuck2 said:
I feel like Hartline trying to be two places at once is going to backfire massively...

But what other choice do they have? Day focusing on all the play calling could be just as bad.
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Tom Herman handled it well enough.

Most weeks won't be as tumultuous as this week was for him even if doing a little of both. A few of the things that likely ate into his free time this week won't be an issue as long as he remains here.

Plus - if he's the coach we all think he is, he'll likely feel like he owes all those kids in the room his best efforts.
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