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Not taking it as an attack. Were just having a discussion, and honestly I may be talking myself into the hire. But where youre saying "excuses", im saying caveats or youre not telling the whole story. Just using DK(or even Pickens) as examples but not mentioning the QB is being disingenuous. Saying he didnt use Bijan is correct, but also saying he was only a rookie is also correct. Saying he hasn't done much in a passing game is correct, but ignoring the QBs he had is being disingenuous. Darnold is better than Mariota, Ridder and Tannehill, and Id even take him over Rodgers. Darnell is still an above average QB. Smith has never even had an above average QB. Let's be honest here.Not attacking you, but look at all the excuses. Rookie Bijan, rookie London, over the hill Rodgers, average Tannehill. At what point are we going to stop and just say he aint it? You ask who can have success with a 2nd year WR? Seattle would say hi, but they're busy preparing for the SB. With what I'm assuming you'd call "average Sam Darnold" if he were to have played under Arthur Smith. Tons of OCs in the NFL would love to have Buckeye fandom defending their failures just because they got (inexplicably) chosen to be on the Ohio State staff for what I hope is just one year.
Think this a good hire, think it's a bad hire....whatever. But when people defend every single thing he does with this much excuse making (not you....everybody as a whole), it makes me wonder if the defense isn't just hopium. I choose to believe that's exactly what it is, because it's one of the things a massive successful fanbase does best.
edit: ah shit....JSN is in year 3. I'll leave it for transparency.
What the...?
All I could see was a combo of Bo and Legend when I read this highlighted section...
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He prefers to use 1 primary WR, and then the #2 WR and TE then become the next receiving weapons, but depending on the personnel, a RB could move into a top 3 role. I don't see that happening at OSU with all of the WR and TE talent, but Smith likes using his RBs in the passing game, A LOT! So get used to see screens, wheel routes and slants to Bo, Ja'Kobi, Isaiah and company.
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And if I'm wrong on all of this, PLEASE quote this and laugh in my proverbial face![]()
@ThumpBig Ten is giving them $70M/year now for nothing and they’ve managed to be a half billion in the hole since joining.
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I hear some rabid alum has made a fortune selling tomato-based prepackaged gumbo to big box retailers ...Where is LSU getting all this money?
Not surprising. All indications are that Hunter's a serious-minded sensible young man.The Travis Hunter tweet isn't real, btw
Cash and Tracy got beat 3-6, 6-3. 3-6FWIW, In the 3rd round, #14 R. Cash & J. Tracy play #3 M. Granollers (Spain) and N. Zeballos (Argentina) Day 8 ? at 7 PM EST. I think that will be tomorrow....![]()

Perspective, don’t leave home without it.Well according to Travis Hunter he was also a broke college student making "only" $250k/mo...
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Aren’t you a Raiders fan?I'm not quite sure how you can say this as a Steeler fan. (also....look out. somebody around here doesn't like Steeler fans)
DK Metcalf was invisible this year. He'd have like 2 catches for 30 yards in the 1st quarter and then never get another target. I can't even name another Pittsburgh WR.
More info. would be appreciated.After taking a day to let my frustration with the hire subside, I started looking into Smith's personnel when he was with the Titans, Falcons and Steelers. I'm also a Steelers fan(Here we Go), so I didn't exactly get the warm and fuzzies when Smith was announced as the HC. But then, after doing a little bit of research, you can easily see that he has had some of the worst collection of talent any coach can have.
Feel free to bash for being a "homer" or wearing "scarlet colored glasses", but I went from not liking the hire, to being very intrigued. Smith has been the OC to the following QBs: Ryan Tannehill, Desmond Ridder and (WELL past his prime)Aaron Rodgers. Not exactly a talented bunch, so then he had to lean on the run game, when he had Derrick Henry. Then had Corradelle Patterson, Tyler Algiers, Bijan Robinson, Najee Harris, Jaylen Warren and Kenneth Gainwell at RB. He gets knocked for not utilizing a rookie Bijan Robinson enough. That is a fair assessment, but when your RB is a rookie and your starting QB is a 2nd year below average player, you kind of need to rely on more than 1 RB to see any type of success. Which he split carries between Robinson and Algiers. He utilized the same gameplan in Pittsburgh this last season, when it was apparent that Rodgers was limited in his mobility and arm strength(similar to Ridder). As well as having a suspect OL in Ten and Pitt, using a RBBC approach was going to be the best option.
He prefers to use 1 primary WR, and then the #2 WR and TE then become the next receiving weapons, but depending on the personnel, a RB could move into a top 3 role. I don't see that happening at OSU with all of the WR and TE talent, but Smith likes using his RBs in the passing game, A LOT! So get used to see screens, wheel routes and slants to Bo, Ja'Kobi, Isaiah and company.
And the funny thing is, if you look at the offenses of the top 4 teams this weekend in the championship games, ALL of their offenses mimic this. But difference is, they all have better talent than anything Smith ever had. The 2nd leading receiver for NE is TE, Hunter Henry. Treveyon was eased into a starting role at RB, similar what Smith did with Bijan, but the OL were quite different, which led to more success for Henderson. McDaniel was also a failed HC who came back to being an OC, and now has Vrabel in the SB in only his 2nd year as HC. The Broncos didn't have a 1000yd rusher due to JK getting injured, but Harvey filled in and has almost 900yds from scrimmage after seeing JK start the first 10gms.
So to sum it up, expect more of a pro style/NFL offense. There will be a dominant WR1(Smith), a reliable WR2(tbd), a versatile TE(tbd) and a RB who can run and catch(Jackson). Gone are the days of 5 wide, air raid, pass happy offenses that were once so popular in college. Day wants to run an NFL style team, not just on defense, but on offense. And some of the ways that Hartline ran the heavy looks, didn't show the same type of creativity that he's hoping Smith does. Smith has studied under Shanahan, McVey and LeFleur, but has never had the talent that they have had. Well now he will, and similar to Patricia who didn't really have a defense/team with talent for what he wanted to run in Detroit or Philly, along with not getting the serious NFL looks like he wanted, it could be good for both parties.
And if I'm wrong on all of this, PLEASE quote this and laugh in my proverbial face![]()
Not attacking you, but look at all the excuses. Rookie Bijan, rookie London, over the hill Rodgers, average Tannehill. At what point are we going to stop and just say he aint it? You ask who can have success with a 2nd year WR? Seattle would say hi, but they're busy preparing for the SB. With what I'm assuming you'd call "average Sam Darnold" if he were to have played under Arthur Smith. Tons of OCs in the NFL would love to have Buckeye fandom defending their failures just because they got (inexplicably) chosen to be on the Ohio State staff for what I hope is just one year.That's been DK is entire career buddy. He's one of the most overrated WRs in the NFL. He's made a living off of an NFL draft picture, and chasing down an INT. He's a glorified WR2. He's a 7yr vet with only 3 1000yd seasons. This was his lowest overall yards in a year, but his targets, TDs, and reception average were all on par to what he's always done. So he played like DK plays. His Ole Miss counterpart: AJ Brown is who fans think DK is. And btw, Smith coached Brown too. He had 2 1000yd seasons, and in his 3rd year he had multiple injuries and still had 869yds 5tds.
The man made chicken salad out of chicken you know what with DK. And when he had a solid WR1 in Brown, he had success. Smith didn't have a good WR1 in Atlanta. He had a rookie ad 2nd year Drake London. Not sure how many coaches are seeing success with that. And oh btw, you fail to mention: DK had an over the hill Rodgers throwing to him, Brown had an average Tannehill and London had Mariota... Again, how many OCs are winning with that?