billmac91 said:

I don’t want this come across the wrong way at all, but I’m really curious to see how an openly devout Mormon, recruits nationally to a national powerhouse program. It’s one thing when you’re the Head Coach of Utah or BYU, and you have a pipeline of Mormon kids in that geographical area to pull from.

Whatever your opinion on religion, many coaches/programs build their culture and identity around Christianity….the Buckeyes being one of them….it really connects with a lot of recruits parents as well.

I’m not a very religious person so again, I’m not knocking the Mormon faith or Whittingham…..I just wonder when he’s sitting at a kitchen table trying to pull a kid to Michigan, and you’ve got Ryan Day, Dan Lanning, Kirby Smart all pitching “their culture” and it resonates a lot more because the Mormon faith is a bit foreign to a large portion of the United States. Just something to think about…

Ultimately, I really think he’s just being paid to get them through the next 3-4 years with as little off the field damage as possible so I don’t think Michigan really cares that much about national recruiting at moment anyways…

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buckeyemania11 said:

Miami Dline is good but it's not all world. Think their stats might be a bit inflated from feasting on a awful ACC slate tol. I agree it's ok the be concerned especially after the Indiana game but they are definitely stoppable.

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billmac91 said:

Dan Lanning wears his religion on his sleeve….

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buckeyemania11 said:

Whittingham is basically a great value version of Harbaugh but without the NFL pedigree. The scUM people acting like this is some landscape changing hire are comically delusional.

Guy has averaged 4 losses a season at Utah. I know I know "but the resources!!!". If any 8-4ish type coach of a smaller program was a garutneed success if you gave them the keys to a bigger program they'd all be highly coveted every year, which isn't the case.

He's a good coach but he's not moving the needle at a bigger program in a higher level conference.

Michigan is basically going to be Utah Midwest from the looks of how he's gonna form his staff. Which means 7-9 wins usually with maybe a 10 win season here and there if things fall right.

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BB73 said:

By hiring him now, their transfer portal should end the same time as everybody else’s.

That could have been a factor, plus during their bowl game in a few days they wouldn’t want the coverage to be focused on the past.

I‘m still amazed they let Warde Manuel be involved in the hiring, with all the negative crap that has happened on his watch.

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MGMT said:

Jesus Christ,


Thanks for positing this was great.

Their DL is holistically better than ours I think. I love our crew but they absolutely don’t generate pressure like that. They held their own against UT and IU, but that front is on another planet.

I really hope Day is working with Sayin on a lot of intermediate stuff because that ball needs to get the fuck out of there. That’s one of the best overall units in the country regardless of position and can take over games.

Hopefully Jackson can get some tough yards.

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Jagdaddy said:

At some point it’s all going to crater hard for Lane, but until then he’s fine entertainment.

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SEREbuckeye said:

Good stuff lol you know he is higher than kite at his own bowl game

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Gizmo said:

Never heard of that show/movie

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osuvictory1 said:

I watched Brian Kelly attempt to QB in 2025.

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osuvictory1 said:

It really doesn't come down to religion. It comes down to where you been and what relationships you have. Of course bags can help, but in the end a coach needs a solid base to grow from, and throwing money at elite recruits and portal transfers can fill a void, but they can't build that base. Whittingham's coaching career is centered in Utah and Idaho. From there, he may have grabbed some recruits from the western states, and leaned on the mormonism. That is his base.

What happens when he rolls into a high school in Columbus, someplace in GA, FL or VA and has no relationship there to roll from? It is that much harder. And even if you get a recruit, they may not be totally bought in, because they were literally bought.

The only saving grace for Whittingham is the current climate of paying for rosters, but that isn't a recipe for sustained success, which makes me think maybe Scum wants 2 good years from Whittingham to get a coach that can bring that potential sustained success. That is the current climate.

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