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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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alexhortdog95;1886566; said:
Ugh....somebody PLEASE tell me he didn't say this:

"But Tressel said that as he addressed his players after their 6 a.m. workout yesterday to alert them, he wasn't seeking sympathy. He said
he left by paraphrasing a quote from former President George W. Bush:

'The most pathetic thing is a leader who is looking for self-pity,' Tressel said."

Of all the people, in a time like this, that you don't want to quote....LOL
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Take it to the political forum, bub.
 
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buckeyesin07;1886399; said:
Smoov--serious question: what do you think should come out of this w/r/t punishment? What would you like to see? Just asking, because (and maybe I'm unknowingly reading this into your posts) it seems like there's a certain slant to your posts (e.g., the bolded above, your repeated use of the phrase "another" big problem for OSU, etc.).
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Gosh, 07, I don't know. That's beyond my pay scale. I am but a simple cave man designer.

I don't know if there is a 'slant' to my posts, I'm just honestly stating my opinion. But I do think this is another big body blow to the OSU perception and reputation, along with a significant ding on JT himself. After all, it is the second time in just a few months that OSU has gotten into significant trouble.

I think it's common to all schools, but the perception within the fanbase of any particular program and coaches is always better - as long as we like them and they are winning at a satisfactory clip - than the perception of the college football landscape at large. The opposite is true if we don't like them and they aren't winning.

Allow me to illustrate by using Arkansas as an example: The college football world at large thinks (thought?) Houston Nutt is a fine man and a fine football coach, and were bewildered that the Arkansas fans wanted him gone so badly that they would resort to the tactics they used to drive him out.

Inside the Arkansas fanbase, the perception was (is) that he is a vainglorious, petty and dishonest man and a football coach who was (is) in over his head. A coach who was overly loyal to incompetent, sycophantic assistants. Arkansas fan was bewildered that the world at large couldn't see that.

The truth, as always, is somewhere in between. In football, and in life, no one is ever as good or as bad as their reputation says it is.


If we like our coach and they win, they are revered beyond what they actually deserve. If we don't like our coach and they aren't winning, they are reviled beyond what they actually deserve.

I say that to say this: The perception of OSU and Jim Tressel inside the Buckeye community doesn't line up with the perception of the college football world at large. Yes, he's a good man, a good teacher and a good coach, but probably not quite as good as y'all think he is.

The perception of OSU and Jim Tressell outside the Buckeye community is significantly different than what it is from the inside.


As far as what should happen, I have no real opinion on that, and the NCAA is such a huge mess of inconsistencies and contradictions, it's hard to get a grip on what might happen. On top of that, there are still a lot of unknown facts about his particular issue.

Regardless, you'd have a hard time convincing me that JT didn't know better, or didn't know exactly what he was risking by failing to disclose what he knew.
 
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SmoovP;1886574; said:
The perception of OSU and Jim Tressell outside the Buckeye community is significantly different than what it is from the inside.
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You know, I was thinking the same thing not 10 minutes ago. Not to mention that if he was on a three - four game slide against Michigan, would people be so eager to support him?
 
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alexhortdog95;1886580; said:
You know, I was thinking the same thing not 10 minutes ago. Not to mention that if he was on a three - four game slide against Michigan, would people be so eager to support him?
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The short answer to that is "no."

The long answer to that is "hell no."
 
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Had to listen to the scUM fans in the office, the Mike and Mike show on the radio, later Sirius had their time to launch their attacks. I'm so sick of it and only it's been one day. Turned the radio off, told the scUMers to f off and tried to work. This is worse than losing a NC game.

I did wear my S&G colors into work today - sort of flying in their faces.
 
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utgrad73;1886600; said:
Had to listen to the scUM fans in the office, the Mike and Mike show on the radio, later Sirius had their time to launch their attacks. I'm so sick of it and only it's been one day. Turned the radio off, told the scUMers to f off and tried to work. This is worse than losing a NC game.

I did wear my S&G colors into work today - sort of flying in their faces.
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This was worth listening to.....

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?id=6196358&callsign=ESPNRADIO&autoplay=1
 
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utgrad73;1886600; said:
Had to listen to the scUM fans in the office, the Mike and Mike show on the radio, later Sirius had their time to launch their attacks. I'm so sick of it and only it's been one day. Turned the radio off, told the scUMers to f off and tried to work. This is worse than losing a NC game.

I did wear my S&G colors into work today - sort of flying in their faces.
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Same here grad. My Navigator is a Tennessee grad and he was ALL over my junk on today's flight about the Bucks being "cheaters".

Instead of continually the fight, I just shut em up with, "Well, at least we WIN when we cheat."
 
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CleveBucks;1886590; said:
Apparently a former player under Earle Bruce. link
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Hmmm... given that he's not the most reputable source, does that mean that Tress may have been correct in not giving this the attention that it deserved?

Not that it still shouldn't have gone through Compliance/General Council's office...

Not that it still shouldn't have come out during the December investigation...

And certainly not that a person of his "stature" would be worth maintaining confidentiality at the expense of NCAA violations for...

But, just wondering.
 
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