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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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CHU;2068359; said:
North Carolina AD - Fired
USC AD - Fired
Boise State AD - Fired

Miami and OSU somehow kept the AD. Really helped OSU.

Wish Ohio State produced Nike products (Oregon). Maybe that would help with any NCAA violations.


Just have Wexner ban anyone involved with the NCAA from watching the Victoria's Secret fashion show or from buying anything from the stores, either for themselves or their spouses/girlfriends/mistresses.
 
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Honest question that I am sure there is laws and agreements on, but in theory since Bowl games are not NCAA sponsored events why the hell does the NCAA have a right to ban any Bowls ( I know there is a legal reason why they can) but the concept as a whole makes little sense to me.
 
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AJHawkfan;2068357; said:
Here's a thought: Don't break the fucking rules, and then there's nothing for you to report or for them to find.

Great theory except for when you have people that have to follow each of those rules and you can't implant chips in them to keep track of every fucking movement they make.

As a University it is your job to tell the kids the rules and do you best to make sure that the rules are followed. However, they are their own people so they are going to do what they want and sometimes they decide to break teh rules. At that point a university should punish the student and self report it to teh NCAA which is what we did.

NCAA just fucked themselve when it comes to any school that does not have to follow public records requests
 
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I think this decision ultimately hurts the NCAA in the long run.

Ohio State fully cooperated with the NCAA, researched penalties in instances similar to what Ohio State had faced, self-imposed sanctions, and still got stiffer penalites from the NCAA.

I think the NCAA did not want to be shown up here if they agreed with Ohio State's self-imposed sanctions, which was the wrong way to go about imposing any additional sanctions to begin with.

As a result of this ruling and what happened last year with Auburn I think schools will self-report less as the opprotunity is now outweight by the cost.

If a school does not self report a violation in the future in can learn from Ohio State and Auburn. It could coopearte with the NCAA or play the "I don't know" card and let the NCAA try and dig up the answers with their limitied resources instread of handing them a book of answers to the facts.

I know soon to be Ex-AD Gene Smith said Ohio State would not appeal, but this needs to be appealed, altough the chances of winning an appeal are probably between slim and none, but what needs to be pressed in an appeal is, what is the benefit for cooperating with the NCAA in the future.
 
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Cheating as defined by the NCAA happens at every single level of NCAA athletics. I can assure you that football players at Baldwin Wallace, Tiffin, Malone, Ashland, and Youngstown State all get extra benefits (again, as defined by the NCAA).

The part that I'm really struggling with is how arrogant and idiotic the Pryor bunch was with how they did things. Everyone should know you keep your mouth shut and take things quietly. IMO, this is on them
 
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Any thought to Boom Herron, DeVier Posey, Solomon Thomas and Mike Adams not playing in the bowl game?

Their actions (along with the former head coach) have cost the program a lot.

Some of these players cannot go to a bowl next year, why allow those four to take their time on the field?
 
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southcampus;2068369; said:
Yeah, because additional schollies and additional post season bans are the same thing.
I'm not following your line of reasoning here.

We self-imposed scholarship reductions - the NCAA added to it

The NCAA added a probationary period

What makes you think that if OSU self-imposed a bowl ban this year that the NCAA would not have added one on for next year? Those who say they are making a statement to appear relevant are 100% correct. If OSU would have self-imposed a bowl ban this year AND next year, my money would STILL be one the NCAA adding one more.
 
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BB73;2068367; said:
Robinson is a Yahoo reporter.

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CharlesRobinson Charles Robinson



Key witness refused to cooperate w/ NCAA's Ohio State probe. Had he taken part, sanctions could have been far worse. OSU dodged a bullet.

13 minutes ago

TP
 
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CHU;2068389; said:
Any thought to Boom Herron, DeVier Posey, Solomon Thomas and Mike Adams not playing in the bowl game?

Their actions (along with the former head coach) have cost the program a lot.

Some of these players cannot go to a bowl next year, why allow those four to take their time on the field?

don't forget to add Hall & Howard to that list... Them along with Posey just helped push this over the edge.

Robinson tweeted about someone not testifying.. I'm assuming this was either the mythical "ellis" or a former player.
 
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I keep wondering about this (sorry to play the "IF" game):

If all five players were kicked off the team last December, didn't play in the bowl, would the sanctions be this bad?

The whole DeVier thing with Bobby D doesn't happen, he's no longer on the team.
 
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