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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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ScriptOhio said:
Yes, hindsight is always 20/20. However I'm sure Tressel made certain promises to the player's parents during the recruiting process concerning making sure that the players are able to get their degree, etc. If he would have kicked them off the team after the first offense he would have been subject to criticism too. He was really in a "no win situation".

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no he could have "won." but its hard to articulate how at this point as more and more flows out. but had he cut the head off the snake (or snakes) earlier be it tatt gate or memorabilia saga or what not. he was either uncooperative by his omission or commission of lying/withholding/burying his head in the sand. he may have left for the benefit of the program, his qb to be blunt quit on his team, this "in the best interest of the team" stuff is pure garbage, unless the best interest is not cooperating with the ncaa. rant continues but ill stop here...
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1936864; said:
Something that I haven't seen discussed, but I'm starting to find it a little strange is that Pryor essentially hit campus his freshman year and immediately plugged into all of this [Mark May]: Fine Line Ink, Talbott, the loaner cars. One could plausibly think that he'd at least need a year to kind of get his feet under him, put out and receive feelers as to the where, who and how this might be done.

Yet, it all seemed to be waiting for him.
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I was going to say something similar last night, but decided against it.

Not because it didn't need to be said, but because it didn't need to be said by me.

It's a fucked up mess is what it is.
 
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SmoovP;1937279; said:
I was going to say something similar last night, but decided against it.

Not because it didn't need to be said, but because it didn't need to be said by me.

It's a [censored]ed up mess is what it is.
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Pretty clearly someone had to "show him the ropes" so to speak. So who was it? Everything seems to center around these five or six players. Did they fall into all this on their own? Doesn't add up for me......
 
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SmoovP;1937279; said:
I was going to say something similar last night, but decided against it.

Not because it didn't need to be said, but because it didn't need to be said by me.

It's a fucked up mess is what it is.
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There is a large contingent picking up on this or its been floating around...im sure someone told him where to go...hopefully it was Ray Small and not someone associated with the program (staff) which i would have a hard time thinking was the case but who the fuck knows at this point
 
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bassbuckeye07;1937301; said:
There is a large contingent picking up on this or its been floating around...im sure someone told him where to go...hopefully it was Ray Small and not someone associated with the program (staff) which i would have a hard time thinking was the case but who the fuck knows at this point
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Well, according to MoC in today's interview with Dan Patrick, it wasn't hard to find pretty quickly:

DP- but people did reach out to help you?
"No, I reached out to people. People didn't reach out to me. Just traveling around in the community, I say, 'Hey, I'm struggling with this. Hey I need help with this.' I do those things.

"I don't know how it goes on anywhere else, but at Ohio State there was nobody who said, 'Hey, go talk to A, B or C and they'll help you out.' That's not true. If you put those guys through a polygraph test they would tell you the same thing. There wasn't any coach or booster or any member in the realm of Ohio State who helps you get a car or things like that. That doesn't go on. It's just guys doing what they want to. People will do what they want to. It's nothing more than just young guys making mistakes.
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Pryor deposited checks into his bank account
Among the latest avalanche of allegations surrounding the Ohio State football program here?s the one that could be the kill shot, the one that, if true, should cause the NCAA to level sanctions against the Buckeyes far in excess of even the carpet bombing it delivered to USC last year.

The website SportsByBrooks reported that the NCAA enforcement staff has discovered ?dozens of payments [quarterback Terrelle] Pryor received in past years from a Columbus sports memorabilia dealer. ? the NCAA violations were discovered when the name of the local memorabilia dealer, Dennis Talbott, was seen on checks Pryor was depositing in his personal bank account."

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I read this article at a scUM forum thread. If this is true, we could be in deep shit. Damn.
 
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ant80;1937465; said:
Pryor deposited checks into his bank account
I read this article at a scUM forum thread. If this is true, we could be in deep [Mark May]. Damn.
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I'm confused. Pryor had already acknowledged receiving improper benefits in exchange for memorabilia, and the university also acknowledged the fact. This really changes nothing, since all it does is confirm that what we've admitted happened, did in fact happen.
 
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MaxBuck;1937475; said:
I'm confused. Pryor had already acknowledged receiving improper benefits in exchange for memorabilia, and the university also acknowledged the fact. This really changes nothing, since all it does is confirm that what we've admitted happened, did in fact happen.
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We admitted to what we knew. Opened an investigation. Dug for more. Disclosed what we found.


Only thing that can make it worse is if the NCAA decides we should have known this was going on.
 
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I have a few questions.

Is it SOP for compliance to get the bank statements of all student-atheletes and review them. Or is it just a sample of them. If its just a sample, is it weighted towards the population in revenue sports?

I know that all compliance departments are different, but this is one of 100s of questions that these past months have brought up in my mind. I don't know if this is just me being stuck in the denial stage, but the more I think about it, it seems like short of locking up atheletes and spying on them 1984 style, that any compliance enforcement anywhere is nothing more than a charade (although ours appears to have potentially missed several obvious violations that should have been caught)

Also, seeing as how the NCAA has no authority to obtain bank records, IF this is true about the checks, did Pryor hand this over to them willingly, knowing that there were tens of thousands of dollars of violations on there, and then decide to go pro after doing this? If so, thanks alot TP.
 
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Tlangs;1937483; said:
We admitted to what we knew. Opened an investigation. Dug for more. Disclosed what we found.


Only thing that can make it worse is if the NCAA decides we should have known this was going on.
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Thats what the writer is implying...said we should have looked at his bank accounts soon as the tattoo thing came to light. I dont think anyone is shocked about this though....not after we heard about him and the memorabelia guy
 
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ant80;1937465; said:
Pryor deposited checks into his bank account
I read this article at a scUM forum thread. If this is true, we could be in deep shit. Damn.
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Double damn. That article is spot on if that is true about the checks.

And if it is true, I am done defending any of these guys. I want them dead. I want their families dead. I want their houses burned to the ground. I want to go there in the middle of the night and piss on their ashes.

No excuse for this. Period.
 
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bassbuckeye07;1937495; said:
Thats what the writer is implying...said we should have looked at his bank accounts soon as the tattoo thing came to light. I dont think anyone is shocked about this though....not after we heard about him and the memorabelia guy
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That's all well and good, but a guy that knows he is breaking the rules sure as hell isn't going to provide bank statements that show this stuff. Open one account for your monthly housing allowance and other normal transactions, open another for off-the-record stuff.

Would compliance be allowed or have the ability to pull a credit record showing open accounts?
 
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