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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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MaxBuck;1931306; said:
One major lesson to be learned here is - don't piss off the media. 'Cause they can hurt you bad.
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I keep seeing this but really don't understand it.

What is the argument here? That if Tressel were kind, open and cooperative with the media throughout his career and this scandal, that they wouldn't be sent into a feeding frenzy by Pryor's tidbits? (he's not alone, but the volume of things he brings to the table warrants isolation)

Baloney. OSU has a number of juicy tidbits to reveal (whether some are circumstantial or hearsay is irrelevant to today's journalist) and they would have scooped up as many as they could find.
 
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Forgot to link Grad's post. :dug it:

I shouldn't care, but I find it hard not to.

Gatorubet;1931524; said:
Muff ole buddy, the issue encompasses more than one concept. One, is whether self reporting is wise. Second, is whether self reporting should immunize one from all or most of the consequences of the actual violation. Third, should self reporting mitigate the penalty of the violation, even if the violation should be subject to a significant penalty.
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I understand all that. Just venting yesterday.

Clarity;1931580; said:
Meh. Tear down the NCAA. Start from scratch. Cleanse with fire unreachable parasites at all levels -- not everyone can be saved. Not going to happen.
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Advocate of the super conferences, eh? :biggrin:
 
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jwinslow said:
I keep seeing this but really don't understand it.

What is the argument here? That if Tressel were kind, open and cooperative with the media throughout his career and this scandal, that they wouldn't be sent into a feeding frenzy by Pryor's tidbits? (he's not alone, but the volume of things he brings to the table warrants isolation)

Baloney. OSU has a number of juicy tidbits to reveal (whether some are circumstantial or hearsay is irrelevant to today's journalist) and they would have scooped up as many as they could find.
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I can't imagine they send half the army of reporters that were sent to dig things up if they liked the guy and were given the access they wanted (but don't deserve).
 
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jwinslow;1931814; said:
What is the argument here? That if Tressel were kind, open and cooperative with the media throughout his career and this scandal, that they wouldn't be sent into a feeding frenzy by Pryor's tidbits?
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The tone of the articles written by Dohrmann, Hooley et al would have been much less gleeful and smug had Tressel been a coach who provided tasty quotes and full access to the media. There would have been far less enthusiasm in throwing words out like "cheater," "hypocrite," and "self-righteous." Tressel might well have been treated more as a victim and less like a perpetrator.

In short, the tone of the articles was nearly as responsible for the ensuing cluster as was Tressel's malfeasance. IMO only, of course.
 
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Well, nothing is official until lsufreak weighs in.

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jwinslow;1931814; said:
What is the argument here? That if Tressel were kind, open and cooperative with the media throughout his career and this scandal, that they wouldn't be sent into a feeding frenzy by Pryor's tidbits? (he's not alone, but the volume of things he brings to the table warrants isolation)
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I agree. Pete Carroll was the media's wet dream. They still went after USC when USC's actions gave them something to look into.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1931745; said:
bull [Mark May] we don't. you don't see a difference between a school paying 180k for a player vs a player going out and finding the scumbags who will slip you cash whenever you want it?

before Cam Newton suited up for Auburn he had already committed at least 1 violation. Pryor had to find the skeezy boosters after he decided to come to Ohio State (which I'm sure also happens at Auburn).
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Yaknow, I hope they fry Auburn and Cam in peanut oil too, but the sad fact is there remains no hard evidence of "a school paying 180k for a player". We do know an evil SEC team launched Cam....er......I mean he did what anyone would do, leave a national contender for JC voluntarily. And we do know an evil SEC team (Miss State) refused to pay for him, and turned the offer in to the SEC and NCAA. We have suspicions that the bastards in Auburn may have paid Cam's dad. With Lowder, I could see it. But I bet you he reduced the $$$ significantly to poor Mr. Newton's consternation. :lol:

The problem here is that you are comparing an admitted violation (it's good to be Chris Rainey and Troy Smith) compared to a currently hypothetical one. So hypothetically, it is worse to pay for a kid for sure. But I'd be hesitant to claim it is a given just yet. Stranger things have happened than Cam's dad getting scared when it did not go down with the cowbells like he wanted, and him backing off.

I will sign the Auburn is dirty affidavit though :biggrin:
 
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MaxBuck;1931856; said:
The tone of the articles written by Dohrmann, Hooley et al would have been much less gleeful and smug had Tressel been a coach who provided tasty quotes and full access to the media. There would have been far less enthusiasm in throwing words out like "cheater," "hypocrite," and "self-righteous."
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The wording would have been different, but the digging for more bombshells would still have been widespread and frantic.

Rich Rodriguez, for all his faults, was pretty friendly and agreeable with the media and they absolutely destroyed him for incredibly tame violations.

Journalism doesn't consider kindness or character when ratings are within reach.
Tressel might well have been treated more as a victim and less like a perpetrator.
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So you're telling me that a coach with a history of these issues (at YSU, Clarett, Smith) now gets caught on the record hiding violations like these, with a superstar as the biggest perpetrator, and doing so repeatedly at a local hook-up separate from a series of questionable vehicle hook-ups (which predated the march press conference)...

...would be portrayed as a victim?

There was an enormous amount of blood in the water. No amount of politeness or openness would have stemmed that onslaught of sharks.
In short, the tone of the articles was nearly as responsible for the ensuing cluster as was Tressel's malfeasance. IMO only, of course.
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No it wasn't. The nature of the violations was the driving force behind this. Pryor didn't just get a discount on some big ticket items, he was illegally selling items, doing so with incredibly unsavory fellas, and then had the whole thing covered up by the program (yes I know what Gene is trying to claim).
 
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