Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[MaliBuckeye]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...tressel-investigation-news-rumors-and-updates


I guess SI has a story about to come out with new shit on Tressel.

Like most BR stuff, that's a rehash of information that we've known about for over a week.

 

[buck1973]

I brought Tressel into it because in the minds of most of the nation, he's running the Ohio State athletic department...not Smith. Even if Smith does have any control over him, it's still his players and his program in question. The buck stops there.

Don't get me wrong though; Smith and Archie need to follow JT right out the same door on the same day.

It seems as if you are implying that Ohio State should base its decisions on perceptions around the nation. That doesn't seem to be the wisest course of action.

When it comes to car deals, the buck does not stop at Tressel. If Tressel sees a player driving a new car, calls compliance, and compliance tells him there are no improprieties; there is not much more he can do.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

You seem to have the deflecting/spinning down quite well.:)

Taking your attack head on then, if I was spending my time here bashing people of faith, it would take up all my time. There's an awful lot of them. The other side of your coin is that there is a very vocal segment of the Tresselistas who--because of his very vocal and outward religiosity--would find any way to defend him and rationalize his actions even if he were to be found in bed with a dead girl or a live boy. In their eye any damage that he brings down on Ohio State University is a minor thing compared to the message he's been apreachin'.

Now, however, if all of these revelations aren't merely smoke. If there is fire here and the ncaa brings the hammer down on Ohio State, then yes I believe that JT will be one of the most pathetic, do as I say, not as I do religious hypocrites in recent memory. Maybe I, a large portion of the Ohio State alumni base, the national press and the college football world at large are all wrong about what's been going on in his program. Maybe this is all a combination of bad journalism, biased attacks and misunderestimated good intentions. If so, we'll all be looking like heartless, rush to judgment fools. We'll see.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Alright. I've had enough of tilting at windmills for one morning. It's Saturday in Chicago, and in the immortal words of Frank Sinatre, "It's Boozin' time, Baby."

I will leave you with a little lighthearted and unrelated entertainment.

Horse Herpes Outbreak Forces Rodeo Queens to Ride Stick Ponies

 

[jwinslow]

Bleacher report is not a source. It is a random internet poster pretending to be a journalist. It should only be posted for humor.

 

[buckeyeintn]

Taking your attack head on then, if I was spending my time here bashing people of faith, it would take up all my time. There's an awful lot of them. The other side of your coin is that there is a very vocal segment of the Tresselistas who--because of his very vocal and outward religiosity--would find any way to defend him and rationalize his actions even if he were to be found in bed with a dead girl or a live boy. In their eye any damage that he brings down on Ohio State University is a minor thing compared to the message he's been apreachin'.

Now, however, if all of these revelations aren't merely smoke. If there is fire here and the ncaa brings the hammer down on Ohio State, then yes I believe that JT will be one of the most pathetic, do as I say, not as I do religious hypocrites in recent memory. Maybe I, a large portion of the Ohio State alumni base, the national press and the college football world at large are all wrong about what's been going on in his program. Maybe this is all a combination of bad journalism, biased attacks and misunderestimated good intentions. If so, we'll all be looking like heartless, rush to judgment fools. We'll see.

Then why not wait until all the facts are in and the verdict is announced? Is your bashing of Tressel/Smith any more warranted at this point than is the defense offered by the "Tresselistas"? Or are you just the same coin, opposite side of those you despise?

 

[Onebuckfan]

IMHO Sorry haters JT is not the Devil...to the koolaid drinkers he is not a Saint. He is a Div.I football coach like Saban RR Kiffin Meyer etc. His job first and foremost is to win games without the NC and winning record no one would care about what he has to say about anything..No losing Coach has ever pulished the "Losers Manual"

 

[bassbuckeye07]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...tressel-investigation-news-rumors-and-updates


I guess SI has a story about to come out with new shit on Tressel.

spotsbybrooks says they dont have a story ready to print and possibly may not put one out hmmmm and neither (SBS and BR) are good sources of info.........that said its been known for some time that SI was in town chasing leads...most say somewhat tame and Ken Gordon tweeted they have nothing


old news untill they actually come out with an article

 

[bassbuckeye07]

Honestly, that paragraph is the worst bit of spin that I've ever ever heard. So, he tells The Dispatch that he only spoke to him "once." Never mentioning that he really spoke to him only once "while at that particular dealership." Wonder if he had fingers crossed behind his back when he gave the comment, knowing in the back of his mind that he had actually spoken to him regarding 50 deals? Perhaps Archie just misremembered the whole thing. Or, we can break out the old "blame the press" routine because clearly that reporter was supposed to divine what Archie meant. Actually, he wasn't supposed to looking into it at all according to a lot of views around here.

The reality is that our athletic department is rotten to the core right now and is in full denial/spin/admit only what's been reported in the press mode/spin some more/deny some more mode.

I can only hope that Gee and BoT are just spinning their wheels and waiting for the final ncaa report to come down before acting to cut the cancers out of our university.

Kniffin said of NCAA investigators. ?They know all of these deals are clean"

Thank God the compliance department did contact him to make sure those deals were clean

 

[Coqui]

I think that's the big thing. Of course, this was also 1995 when I was trying to do it, so I was working in a kitchen for 8 bucks an hour. Looking back, I think to myself, where did all my money go?

It was 1995 for me too

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

Then why not wait until all the facts are in and the verdict is announced?

ord doesn't want to wait:

He's guilty until proven innocent in my eyes..

his hypocrisy is evident in the same quoted post:

If one goes back to the early pages in this thread, one finds the arguments of those dismissing the initial reports of tattoos to be eerily similar to those now dismissing the initial reports on cargate.

how wrong we were to dismiss the initial reports on cargate.

... there are those who will excuse anything that's revealed about him up to and including the moment that CNN helicopters might be showing live footage of the dead boys being removed from his crawl space.

The other side of your coin is that there is a very vocal segment of the Tresselistas who--because of his very vocal and outward religiosity--would find any way to defend him and rationalize his actions even if he were to be found in bed with a dead girl or a live boy.

gee, i wonder who will be rejoicing if tressel is found guilty.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

Alright. I've had enough of tilting at windmills for one morning. It's Saturday in Chicago, and in the immortal words of Frank Sinatre, "It's Boozin' time, Baby."

I will leave you...

please do.

 

[Jaxbuck]

how wrong we were to dismiss the initial reports on cargate.
.

Time will tell.

The Dispatch using shoddy fact checking wasn't vindication of Tressel or the OSU athletic department even though that's the slant it has taken on here. Jim Tressel and OSU are in fact waiting to hear from the NCAA as to the punishment for lying/covering up OSU's use of ineligible players. That did actually happen.

Ray Small says the same basic thing Spielman and Titus said (other stuff was going on) but uses the word "everyone" instead of "a lot", or "some", and not only is he to be completely discredited, a lynch mob forms.

Meanwhile the OSU compliance guy gives us the "what I meant to say was once at that dealership and 50 times at the second dealership" line and it seems perfectly reasonable.

This place is quickly becoming no different than Thomas Beavers constant spin for Rich Rod or Auburn fans chirping about Cam being clean. Just change some of the names and use the same template. I can understand some degree of homerisim but at what point does a basic level of intellectual honesty kick in? We've spent the last 3 years bashing the living fuck (rightfully so) out of the all in crowd up north just to turn around and do the same shit.

If people are willing to buy Tressel/OSU couldn't lie/cover up anything twice, that this is all a media witch hunt then they better be buying that Pete Carrol's departure from USC was a coincidence. They better be buying that Cam Newton's dad only asked for money once, didn't get it, never asked again, found money to fix his church from heaven and Cam was in the dark the whole time. If you are a person of great faith then fine, have faith but buy all that bullshit, not just some of it.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

Time will tell.

The Dispatch using shoddy fact checking wasn't vindication of Tressel or the OSU athletic department even though that's the slant it has taken on here.

i'm certainly not claiming that a shoddy investigation vindicates tressel; however, i find such vindication as absurd as issuing guilt based on shoddy investigation, rumors, and no rebuttal.

i'm not at all optimistic about where this situation is heading, but place me firmly in the camp of those thinking that we need much more information before making a conclusion.

 

[MaxBuck]

Here's Today's Revelation:

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/feed/2010-12/osu-suspensions/story/car-dealer-osu-compliance-director-called-me-over-50-times

I don't know what kind of operation that assclown Smith is running down there, but if he keeps his job because of any "factor" you might as well paint Ohio State as a rogue program for the rest of our lives.

Maybe you better hold off a bit before letting loose with both barrels. It seems to me like there is plenty of room for differing interpretations here, and by all accounts Doug Archie is a very conscientious and capable guy.