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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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buck1973;1929079; said:
Could you please post the transcripts of his interview with the Dispatch? Since you are so sure of what was said, I can only assume you have seen them. The original article doesn't even contain a direct quote on the matter. Without seeing his actual answer and the context to which it was given, I am not going to pass judgement.
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So now reporters stories don't count unless they release all their notes.

Let me lay the pattern that I see out for you:

1) Damning bit of evidence comes out via the press.

2) Tresselistas comb through it like an NSA agent reading Al Quaeda's tea leaves looking for the slightest error or inconsistency

3) Use any error or inconsistency--no matter its relevance to the article's actual contentions--to discredit entire thrust of article. Blame press.

Read the first few pages of this thread. I'm sure there are many Tresselistas out there still waiting for Yahoo to eat crow for accusing JT of wrongdoing.

For awhile, I actually thought it would be a sad day when this whole saga came to its inevitable conclusion and JT is shown the door. It'll still be a painful exercise (cutting away a cancer always is) but the university will be healthier coming out of the process than it was going in to it. And at the end of the day, that will be a good thing.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1929083; said:
So now reporters stories don't count unless they release all their notes.
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so now reporters' stories count merely because they find their way to print? i don't disregard everything in print, but i certainly don't assume the truth of everything i read in print, especially after seeing a medium's failure to research and release accurately a number of key points.

if after both sides make their cases and tressel & co. are found to be guilty of grave violations, then i will want for their heads to be set on stakes. again, rushing to judgment before the accused hasn't officially responded in full is asinine.
 
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Muck;1929094; said:
2. Attack university employees as lying scumbags.

3. Story turns out to be inaccurate.
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How has this story turned out to be inaccurate? OSU is admitting that Archie really did have 50 conversations with the car salesman (only after said salesman offered up his phone records) not the one that he admitted to but is attempting to spin that it is not a lie (dependent of course upon what the definition of is is) because, "he only had one when the car dealer was employed by dealer A."

Do you really think that if Archie had clearly spelled out to the reporter that he had one conversation at dealer A and another 49 at dealer B, that media relations would not have said THAT in response to the article rather than that lame assed spin that they did break out?

Oh wait, I got this one: Ohio State and its Head Saint are so utterly noble that they're willing to bite the bullet and look like weaselly, lying, spinning fools rather than call this reporter on the carpet for being dishonest and/or incompetent. That's just the kinda caring, unselfish guys they are. I feel honored to have them representing my alma mater.

I'm sorry but when the used car dealers are deserting the ship that's a clear sign that baby is going down.
 
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OSU_Buckguy;1929091; said:
if after both sides make their cases and tressel & co. are found to be guilty of grave violations, then i will want for their heads to be set on stakes. again, rushing to judgment before the accused hasn't officially responded in full is asinine.
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Apparently, the accused will be speaking through Auburn's attorney.
 
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EDDIE GGGG27;1929104; said:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...tressel-investigation-news-rumors-and-updates


I guess SI has a story about to come out with new [Mark May] on Tressel.
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Because if anyone would know Im sure it would be Matthew Hansen. He cant even work a camera.
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ORD_Buckeye;1929105; said:
Apparently, the accused will be speaking through Auburn's attorney.
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you mean the ex-chairman of the committee on infractions?

or do you mean that tressel is necessarily guilty because of the attorney representing him? if so, trial cases everywhere just got a lot easier.

edit: by the way, gene marsh never represented auburn. get your facts (and insinuations) straight.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1929083; said:
So now reporters stories don't count unless they release all their notes.

Let me lay the pattern that I see out for you:

1) Damning bit of evidence comes out via the press.

2) Tresselistas comb through it like an NSA agent reading Al Quaeda's tea leaves looking for the slightest error or inconsistency

3) Use any error or inconsistency--no matter its relevance to the article's actual contentions--to discredit entire thrust of article. Blame press.

Read the first few pages of this thread. I'm sure there are many Tresselistas out there still waiting for Yahoo to eat crow for accusing JT of wrongdoing.

For awhile, I actually thought it would be a sad day when this whole saga came to its inevitable conclusion and JT is shown the door. It'll still be a painful exercise (cutting away a cancer always is) but the university will be healthier coming out of the process than it was going in to it. And at the end of the day, that will be a good thing.
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No, I do not need reporters notes to take a story seriously. I do, however, realize that reporters are not all knowing and sometimes misconstrue things. Without a direct quote from Archie in the original article, I am open to the idea that he was misunderstood, especially since the article contained other inaccuracies. Using your pattern in regard to the original article is quite humorous. The most damning piece of evidence, the Gibson 0$ title, has been acknowledged incorrect. Without it, I doubt the article is written. It definitely was not "the slightest error or inconsistency."

I'm also not sure why you brought Tressel into the discussion. Vetting car deals is a function of the compliance department, not Tressel.
 
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buck1973;1929109; said:
I'm also not sure why you brought Tressel into the discussion. Vetting car deals is a function of the compliance department, not Tressel.
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I brought Tressel into it because in the minds of most of the nation, he's running the Ohio State athletic department...not Smith. Even if Smith does have any control over him, it's still his players and his program in question. The buck stops there.

Don't get me wrong though; Smith and Archie need to follow JT right out the same door on the same day.
 
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buck1973;1929109; said:
I'm also not sure why you brought Tressel into the discussion. Vetting car deals is a function of the compliance department, not Tressel.
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My guess is he brought the "Head Saint" into the discussion because, from what I have seen, he uses any opportunity to bash people of faith. Because Tressel has the audacity to voice his religious beliefs he must be a conniving hypocrite.
 
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