Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[MaxBuck]

Anyone who thinks they can ascertain whether "benefits unavailable to the general public" are being provided based upon a review of auto sale prices is an idiot. There's too much variability.

Of course, that means ESPN will begin doing just that.

 

[BUCKYLE]

So the $0 car wasn't a $0 car, as the rational members on here already knew. Half the cars selling below the "market average", of course, what anyone who has lasted past the "hand out the syllabus" stage of an intro stats class would expect, and the Dispatch is already "walking back" their little yellow journalism drive by.

Amazing.

Which leaves me with a question -- is the "objective" Ohio State fan still supposed to be demanding the immediate firing of Tressel, Smith and the entire compliance department and that the NCAA immediately suspend the football program until further notice? I mean, I want to be objective so as not to be an embarrassment to rational fans who have carefully weighed the evidence and waited for facts to be presented. /sarcasm

Wexner needs to clean house.

 

[bassbuckeye07]

Wexner needs to clean house.

With Victoria Secret models

 

[Saw31]

Need to send more journalists to middle eastern countries in turmoil so they can be beaten by a mob...

 

[buxfan4life]

Need to send more journalists to middle eastern countries in turmoil so they can be beaten by a mob...

Wait? The mobs aren't beating them properly in C-bus? So Herbie really didn't have to move because of all the abuse he was taking?

Oh, wait a minute. You said JOURNALISTS, not "faketanningtalkingheadwithanaxtogrindagainstthecoachingstaffthathasmadehimpersonanongrata".

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

Car salesman would be the FIRST one EVER to use the line "tell your friends about me... I'll make them a great deal"

 

[y0yoyoin]

 

[bassbuckeye07]

Saw that second one before................I would like to have that car it would go with my mullit

 

[Landomatic]

Spielman says Tressel may not coach in 2011

Hadn't seen this posted anywhere and just curious to get your reactions on it. I'll be the first to admit that I don't know much about Chris Spielman other than he's fairly well respected? Anyway...sorry if already posted or if I'm out of line by posting this...I'm still learning my way around here and not trying to step on any toes. Here are some highlights from the article...

He doesn’t expect Jim Tressel to be on the sidelines coaching any football games in the 2011 season.

“I’d be surprised if he’s coaching next year (2011). Why I say that is I think there is more stuff coming out,” the Ohio State legend said.

So what has to happen, in my opinion, is that the people in charge have to take an honest look and say, ‘What is best for the university moving forward?’ Then they have to make a hard decision.

“And I do believe Coach Tressel owes it to our university, he has to look in the mirror and say, ‘What is best for the university looking forward.?’ ”

Rest of the article here.

 

[Gatorubet]

It occurred to me - all the players who had family members also buy car have to do is say "I had no idea" and that should be sufficient under the Cam Newton holding....

They are the same, in that respect. The sins of the father are supposed to count against the son (NCAA rules-wise). But... we already know the NCAA doesn't believe that in a [censored]ing pay for play scheme, so why would they enforce it now?

BKB, you are skipping over the core holding in the Auburn Newton ruling. One, the dad's offer was to Mississippi State - who declined to participate with Mr. Newton, and in fact reported the offer to either the SEC or NCAA or both, I forget how it went down. Auburn is a different story.

As it stands, there is currently no evidence that Auburn was offered (or accepted) a plan to give improper benefits to Cam or his dad. Put another way, until you find that Auburn was approached or agreed to pay Cam, there is nothing you can point to regarding Auburn or Cam that is illegal because of his playing for Auburn.

If people associated with tOSU or family members of tOSU athletes took (or agreed to take) improper benefits, then they are in trouble. Not because of the sins of the father thing is ignored, but because the improper benefits were taken when they played for the institution the kid played for, and not an institution that they thought about playing for before the kids decided on tOSU.

 

[Gatorubet]

Do I think Auburn and Cam are dirty? You bet your ass I do. But that is not the issue when you are talking about the "I did not know" defense. That is limited to a case where there is no evidence against institution #2 - when an attempt to be bribed by institution #1 falls through. Everybody thinks they know what happened, and I agree. But I await the proof.

The sad thing is - after the media orgy of negative press is over, and no matter how the facts turn out exonerating you - most idle fans or observers will only remember something about tOSU being a dirty program and Tress a dirty coach.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Fine. Replace the helmets with every single jersey they sell.

Christ.

JFC. Let it go already. The university gets money from the sales of jerseys, et al, and funnels it back into the school. The players' performance helps everyone in the school. It's not like they're earning a shit-ton of money for a few greedy owners. In turn, they get a totally free four-year fucking education.

I'm so sick and tired of hearing people fucking bitch and moan about how "the players generate so much money and get nothing in return". In addition to their education, they get lifetime connections for job placement (you play football at OSU and don't get into trouble, you'll never want for employment, ever). All the NCAA says is for them not to sell their shit until they graduate.

Turns out that most players don't break the NCAA rules because they are in dire straights or barely making ends meet, but because they're fucking greedy. You know what? You sell your Gold Pants, fuck you. You sell your Championship Ring, fuck you. You're a near-cinch draft pick for the NFL a year or two down the road and yet you just have to put the entire football program in jeopardy solely because you want a couple grand right this instant, fuck you.

 

[Merih]

BKB, you are skipping over the core holding in the Auburn Newton ruling. One, the dad's offer was to Mississippi State - who declined to participate with Mr. Newton, and in fact reported the offer to either the SEC or NCAA or both, I forget how it went down. Auburn is a different story.

As it stands, there is currently no evidence that Auburn was offered (or accepted) a plan to give improper benefits to Cam or his dad. Put another way, until you find that Auburn was approached or agreed to pay Cam, there is nothing you can point to regarding Auburn or Cam that is illegal because of his playing for Auburn.

If people associated with tOSU or family members of tOSU athletes took (or agreed to take) improper benefits, then they are in trouble. Not because of the sins of the father thing is ignored, but because the improper benefits were taken when they played for the institution the kid played for, and not an institution that they thought about playing for before the kids decided on tOSU.

Come on Gator if the whole world wants to jump to conclusions about OSU it only makes sense for us to look at other schools in the same cynical light.

If Cecil had control over where Cam went, and Cecil was trying to get 180k from the family's favorite school and was rebuked, then they decide to go to Auburn...its the same amount of circumstancial evidence being used against OSU with the car dealership issue. If nothing was on the table at any school for the family to take, they would have just went to Mississippi State which was their favorite to begin with.

 

[Mike80]

Other then there is already a multiple hundred post thread concerning rumors like this....

There are going to be rumblings and ruminations similar to this up until August.

 

[Tonyank]

another thread???? good fucking god.