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It's not hypocracy.
Still not a word.
The school gains no competitive edge by selling merchandise
Of course it does. A school without that much of an operating budget can't afford to build the facilities that OSU can, and merchandise plays a role in that.
You really think people by Buckeye jerseys just because a certain player wears one?
Yes, you do think that:
The numbers of the jerseys (2 and 5) just happened to be those of players popular at the time.
Of course there are many reasons to wear something with OSU on it. That doesn't change the main reason stores sell thousands of #2 jerseys, or #33 a few years before that (it wasn't in honor of Joe Gantz).
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1920487; said:
...You really think people by Buckeye jerseys just because a certain player wears one? I have several jerseys, and none were bought with a specific player in mind...I bought them because I wanted an OSU jersey. The numbers of the jerseys (2, 5, and 10) just happened to be those of players popular at the time. I would've bought them regardless of available number.

You had me until this part. 99% of people buy Jersey's because of the player who wears them. I bought a #47 when AJ Hawk was a Jr. My brother bought a #7 when Ginn was a sophmore. I know about 6 guys with #10 that they purchased in 2005.

In your example above, you went out and bought a Jersey "for the love of the team" and they just happened to be those of the most popular players. Why do you think the popular players jersey's are the ones made most readily available?
 
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jwinslow;1920443; said:
That's not the argument, chap. Ticket sales & general revenue from holding football games are a reasonable trade for an education.
And getting an education--at no cost--that most others would have difficultly affording is a reasonable trade.


jwinslow;1920443; said:
Nike, OSU & other businesses sell thousands of Pryor jerseys every year, but because there is no nameplate, their lawyers have helped them get away with that double standard.
They sell "No. 2" jerseys, not "Pryor" jerseys.


jwinslow;1920443; said:
Yeah, that's way overboard.
Well, when you grow up and actually do something that entails siginificant sacrifice and/or accomplishment, then you can feel qualified to comment on this, sport.

I wouldn't sell my Western Australia Ironman medal for anything...it's the material representation of the years and thousands of mile of training I did in preparation for the challange. Players who disrespect their Gold Pants and Championship rings not only belittle the symbol of accomplishment, it disrespects the other who also earned them. So, uh, no...it's not way overboard.
 
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Tlangs;1920492; said:
You had me until this part. 99% of people buy Jersey's because of the player who wears them. I bought a #47 when AJ Hawk was a Jr. My brother bought a #7 when Ginn was a sophmore. I know about 6 guys with #10 that they purchased in 2005.

In your example above, you went out and bought a Jersey "for the love of the team" and they just happened to be those of the most popular players. Why do you think the popular players jersey's are the ones made most readily available?

I bought a #10 jersey because it had the BCS Champioship game logo on it, not because it was Troy Smith's number. Your claim of 99% of people buying jerseys because of the player who wears them is a tad inflated. I know several fans here on the island who have gear they bought irrespective of the player.
 
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jwinslow;1920491; said:
Of course it does. A school without that much of an operating budget can't afford to build the facilities that OSU can, and merchandise plays a role in that.

Wow. How galatically stupid is this comment? If this were the case, why did Ohio State have to take out a $194 million dollar loan for the stadium refurbishment? The school still relies heavily on alumni donations and state funding for facilities. And even if the athletic facilites are significantly funded by sales of merchandise, guess who directly benefits from that? That's right, Sherlock...the athletes themselves.
 
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It's not hypocracy. The school gains no competitive edge by selling merchandise...its gets 85 football scholarships allocated regardless if it sells $1 million in merchandise or $100 million in merchadise. The school, however, does get a competitive advantage if its players are permitted to funnel money into their pockets by being allowed to sell shit at either extremely inflated prices (because of their status, e.g., being football players) or selling things they've earned by being on the football team (and thus being available to the general student population).

You really think people by Buckeye jerseys just because a certain player wears one? I have several jerseys, and none were bought with a specific player in mind...I bought them because I wanted an OSU jersey. The numbers of the jerseys (2, 5, and 10) just happened to be those of players popular at the time. I would've bought them regardless of available number.
My definition of hypocrisy is different than yours then. I see a school being allowed to sell game worn __________, but the players who wear those __________ get in trouble for doing the same thing. It has nothing to do with competitive advantage.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1920506; said:
I bought a #10 jersey because it had the BCS Champioship game logo on it, not because it was Troy Smith's number. Your claim of 99% of people buying jerseys because of the player who wears them is a tad inflated. I know several fans here on the island who have gear they bought irrespective of the player.

Why was the #10 jersey the one that was in the store to purchase?


BECAUSE TROY SMITH WORE THAT NUMBER!
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1920525; said:
My definition of hypocrisy is different than yours then. I see a school being allowed to sell game worn __________, but the players who wear those __________ get in trouble for doing the same thing. It has nothing to do with competitive advantage.

Some irony in this to me is that it sort of does have to do with competitive advantage, in as much as the NCAA is basically saying schools can make money off it, but not get kids because of it. What I mean is that if the players could sell all their game worn shit, and they all knew they could going in, where would many of them go? Somewhere like Ohio State, or USC, or Oklahoma, or with a rabid fan base that will basically mean they get more money than they would if they went to, say, Indiana, Boise State, or North Carolina. Income from game-worn shit would turn into one of the primary recruiting tools, and the NCAA doesn't want that...so they just let the schools get who they can and basically do the same thing, so the schools get the money, but the NCAA can say they're all about "competitive balance" in recruiting...or something. I don't know, the whole thing is fucked up, but I can see where letting the kids sell all their jerseys and trinkets is a bad deal.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1920506; said:
I bought a #10 jersey because it had the BCS Champioship game logo on it, not because it was Troy Smith's number. Your claim of 99% of people buying jerseys because of the player who wears them is a tad inflated. I know several fans here on the island who have gear they bought irrespective of the player.


I have to side with the 99% on this one. If I were you, I'd consider myself in the 1% minority that purchases jerseys because of other reasons.

If that were the case, I could have saved myself $185 bucks and gotten some generic blue #18 jersey from my wife....

$185.00

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$29.99, down from $84.00







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