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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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themongoose32;1918316; said:
When Pryor was a well known freshmen and wearing the number 2 jersey and Malcolm Jenkins was best/second best known player on defense and 3 year starter. Whose jersey were they buying that year? How do you split the profits then?
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You can't split the profits or pay them at all, because it opens pandora's box.

You shouldn't be selling their jerseys period under the current set of amateur laws.
 
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This might be a tad off subject, but is somewhat relevant.

My wife and I decided she needs a new vehicle. We have financing set up through a bank in our hometown. We have looked at vehicles for the last year on and off. Yesterday, we found a vehicle that fits our needs and is in our price range. The dealership in in Kansas, but the bank is in Ohio.

We have that vehicle parked out front right now. I have paid the dealership zero dollars due to the fact our bank was closed and our loan officer will not be in until Monday. The dealership let us take the new vehicle and our old vehicle home with the promise that we will return on Monday with the money from our bank and the title for the old vehicle, which is in a lockbox in Ohio.

It will take at least a week to get the title mailed here and about the same for us to get the paperwork signed for the car note through our bank. So we get to drive the new vehicle at least a week without any money ever changing hands. If our financing falls through, we basically get to drive a new vehicle for about a week and never paid anything to do so.

Now my question is, if a random dealership can do this for me.....how is that any different than what our players and local dealerships did?
 
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smitty03;1918272; said:
A more detailed article with some of the athletes that have purchased cars from the dealerships...

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Quarterback Terrelle Pryor's mother and brother also purchased cars from the dealerships. Kniffin loaned his own car to Pryor for a three-day test drive to Pryor's home in Jeannette, Pa.

I'm sure people from Jeannette, PA buy cars in Columbus all the time.

Kniffin and the owner of one of the dealerships he worked for, Jason Goss, have attended seven football games as guests of players, including the 2007 national championship game and the 2009 Fiesta Bowl.

I'm sure it is just because they are nice guys.

Kniffin told The Dispatch that he has sold cars to at least four dozen OSU athletes and their relatives, that the OSU compliance staff directed them to him, and that university officials reviewed all documents before sales were final.

I don't believe the underlined part, but if it is true you can kiss tOSU football good bye. See SMU, 1980s.

Auto Direct's showroom is filled with autographed jerseys from former and current players who have purchased cars from Kniffin.

Goss, who said he is a big Buckeyes fan, said he received no memorabilia from players, who autographed jerseys he had purchased while buying their cars.

Kniffin, who said he is not an OSU fan, has had financial problems since 2006. He now owes more than $130,000 to the IRS, and his $570,000 Delaware County home is in foreclosure.

Oh, that's just beautiful.

At what point does this all become indefensible, gang? :ohwell:
 
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I saw in the article that car dealerships can sell cars at whatever prices they want. Is it really against NCAA rules for the players to buy cars at cheaper prices because the dealer lets them? Im not sure what the problem is here.
 
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OhioState001;1918333; said:
I saw in the article that car dealerships can sell cars at whatever prices they want. Is it really against NCAA rules for the players to buy cars at cheaper prices because the dealer lets them? Im not sure what the problem is here.
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if the players are getting special deals because they're players, then it is absolutely a problem.
 
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Jake;1918325; said:
Quarterback Terrelle Pryor's mother and brother also purchased cars from the dealerships. Kniffin loaned his own car to Pryor for a three-day test drive to Pryor's home in Jeannette, Pa.

I'm sure people from Jeannette, PA buy cars in Columbus all the time.

Kniffin and the owner of one of the dealerships he worked for, Jason Goss, have attended seven football games as guests of players, including the 2007 national championship game and the 2009 Fiesta Bowl.

I'm sure it is just because they are nice guys.

Kniffin told The Dispatch that he has sold cars to at least four dozen OSU athletes and their relatives, that the OSU compliance staff directed them to him, and that university officials reviewed all documents before sales were final.

I don't believe the underlined part, but if it is true you can kiss tOSU football good bye. See SMU, 1980s.

Auto Direct's showroom is filled with autographed jerseys from former and current players who have purchased cars from Kniffin.

Goss, who said he is a big Buckeyes fan, said he received no memorabilia from players, who autographed jerseys he had purchased while buying their cars.

Kniffin, who said he is not an OSU fan, has had financial problems since 2006. He now owes more than $130,000 to the IRS, and his $570,000 Delaware County home is in foreclosure.

Oh, that's just beautiful.

At what point does this all become indefensible, gang? :ohwell:
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Shouldn't the fucking compliance dept be reviewing shit like this to make sure it's legit? I mean...am I missing something here? Isn't that EXACTLY what the fuck they're supposed to fucking do? Make sure the loan/contract abides by the rules?
 
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buckeyes_rock;1918347; said:
I guess the question is then...how do you prove the dealers intent?
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To truly prove intent you would have to have a rather wide range of sales data encompassing both regular purchases and those made by the players (and their families), comparing things such as credit scores, how the car was financed, trade-ins and the value assessment, etc. Or, a statement that preference was given to the players and their families. I suppose a proven link of memorabilia would also shed some light on the truthfulness of their statements.

Of course, this is the NCAA, so as long as the right person alleges it was an improper benefit, then it is one.
 
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buckeyes_rock;1918347; said:
I guess the question is then...how do you prove the dealers intent?
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No one can truly know what is in another person's mind but the prima facie evidence is damning:

"Kniffin and the owner of one of the dealerships he worked for, Jason Goss, have attended seven football games as guests of players, including the 2007 national championship game and the 2009 Fiesta Bowl."
 
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