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BUCKYLE;1912050; said:Cecil Newton's church ain't in the corn belt, brah.
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BUCKYLE;1912050; said:Cecil Newton's church ain't in the corn belt, brah.
MililaniBuckeye;1912030; said:The NCAA already allowed the ineligible players to play in the Sugar Bowl, so there's no way they turn around and vacate the win.
Agreed, so the question could be re-phrased as whether you're leaning toward the second of those two possibilities - that Tressel did tell OSU staff what was going on and is now "taking one for the team".LordJeffBuck;1912031; said:Well, if you believe Ohio State's official position, then Tressel must be a rogue coach. If you don't want to believe that Tressel is a rogue coach, then I guess that you have to be a little bit skeptical of the official story coming out of Columbus.
Yes.zincfinger;1912079; said:Agreed, so my question was basically whether you're leaning toward the second of those two possibilities - that Tressel did tell OSU staff what was going on and is now "taking one for the team".
That would certainly explain the enthusiastic support for Tressel from his bosses (even arguably over-the-top support, "I hope he doesn't fire me" -Gee).LordJeffBuck;1912084; said:Yes.
It keeps coming back to this for me. Tressel isn't this stupid. What is the real story?On a side note, JT had to know that all communication via a University cell phone or email account was subject to FIA requests.
Dang JT..trac phone? Yahoo?
Sheesh...like Fredo at the fruit stand.
zincfinger;1912086; said:That would certainly explain the enthusiastic support for Tressel from his bosses (even arguably over-the-top support, "I hope he doesn't fire me" -Gee).
BuckeyeNation27;1912091; said:It keeps coming back to this for me. Tressel isn't this stupid. What is the real story?
And just for [Mark May]s and giggles.....I wonder what the punishment would be had he tried to cover it up way back when, but then copped to it to the NCAA when he signed that paper.
knapplc;1912103; said:I think you guys are worrying unnecessarily about a public image hit over this. I think it's pretty safe to say that, no matter what, Ohio State is a pillar of college football, always will be, and while this may not look good, it's not going to erase decades and decades and decades of esteem.
I would consider myself a reasonably unbiased outside party at this point, since we haven't played any games yet. I don't get the impression "out there" that sentiment towards OSU is any worse than it was before these allegations came to light. Those who hated OSU still do, but they have more words to say express their dislike. Those who like or are in favor of OSU mostly think that Tressel screwed up, big time, but that his transgression doesn't take away from decades of success.
I'm no fan of Ohio State, but I have always recognized your place in the Pantheon of college football. That place isn't going away because of this. There will be some dirty laundry aired and it will be the talk of the blogs for a while, but it'll go away pretty fast, even if you get the worst penalty the NCAA levies.
Think of USC, and how much they're still esteemed. You guys were, overall, far more liked than the Trojans before Carroll's shenanigans came out.
knapplc;1912103; said:I think you guys are worrying unnecessarily about a public image hit over this. I think it's pretty safe to say that, no matter what, Ohio State is a pillar of college football, always will be, and while this may not look good, it's not going to erase decades and decades and decades of esteem.
I would consider myself a reasonably unbiased outside party at this point, since we haven't played any games yet. I don't get the impression "out there" that sentiment towards OSU is any worse than it was before these allegations came to light. Those who hated OSU still do, but they have more words to say express their dislike. Those who like or are in favor of OSU mostly think that Tressel screwed up, big time, but that his transgression doesn't take away from decades of success.
I'm no fan of Ohio State, but I have always recognized your place in the Pantheon of college football. That place isn't going away because of this. There will be some dirty laundry aired and it will be the talk of the blogs for a while, but it'll go away pretty fast, even if you get the worst penalty the NCAA levies.
Think of USC, and how much they're still esteemed. You guys were, overall, far more liked than the Trojans before Carroll's shenanigans came out.