Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[generaladm]

In case anyone missed it in the article re Pryor's godfather, Terrelle's birth father has very serious health issues which make it difficult for him to even attend games, let alone participate in the rigors of a nationally publicized recruiting process. It is very possible that the coaching staff considered the two men in question to be more akin to guardians than mentors or family friends.

 

[alexhortdog95]

And now they're saying that OSU can be considered a 'Repeat Offender'?!?

 

[muffler dragon]

And now they're saying that OSU can be considered a 'Repeat Offender'?!?

Please don't post things of such ambiguity without some sort of link.

 

[Jaxbuck]

It is very possible that the coaching staff considered the two men in question to be more akin to guardians than mentors or family friends.

It really doesn't matter what the relationship was though.

It is almost impossible to interpret the forwarding of the email as anything other than a "help me get TP to knock this shit off" message. This of course would have to mean that JT knew the violations had occurred, was intent on keeping it in house and really wasn't as concerned with confidentiality as he tried to portray.

This all gives the NCAA investigators something tangible to interpret as proof of obstrufication if they so choose and that is most certainly a big deal.

 

[Gatorubet]

Neither. I don't post nearly as often as those guys. And I am certainly not lessmilesmorepryor or finallyfastohio. Those two are class A morons.

Bill, I was kidding about lessmilesmorepryor.....that you are not him is self evident after reading first couple things it says. I always thought he was a fake ID of one of the SEC guys just to make y'all look bad.

 

[NFBuck]

Good point, AdMonkey.

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

And now they're saying that OSU can be considered a 'Repeat Offender'?!?

I think this is related with the Jim O'Brien mess.

 

[3074326]

Please don't post things of such ambiguity without some sort of link.

I thought I read it too, something about five years between major violations (O'Brien probation was placed five years ago). Trying to find a link, because I think it was in the Dispatch.... could be off on that though.

 

[Gatorubet]

I am rethinking what Prof (and I) thought about the confidentiality aspect. Until we know when (and what) Tress forwarded, it is possible he forwarded the first e-mail, which had no request for confidentiality. If that was the only one forwarded, then Tress saying he worried about confidentiality cannot be entirely discounted. Still no reason not to send it to compliance, but without the time line and the content forwarded, Tress' concerns about confidentiality can't be totally written off yet.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I thought I read it too, something about five years between major violations (O'Brien probation was placed five years ago). Trying to find a link, because I think it was in the Dispatch.... could be off on that though.

I had someone tell me they heard it on the radio yesterday as well.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

So... having not read today's postings.... can I assume that the last several pages have been rendered with the understanding that what has come out publicly has virtually nothing to do with what has been told to the NCAA privately?

In other words - I trust all of you are working under the assumption that this piece of news isn't "new" to Ohio State or the NCAA, even if it's new to the media....

 

[buxfan4life]

So... having not read today's postings.... can I assume that the last several pages have been rendered with the understanding that what has come out publicly has virtually nothing to do with what has been told to the NCAA privately?

In other words - I trust all of you are working under the assumption that this piece of news isn't "new" to Ohio State or the NCAA, even if it's new to the media....

My stomach hurts after reading that.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

My stomach hurts after reading that.

Glad I could help

 

[BayBuck]

So... having not read today's postings.... can I assume that the last several pages have been rendered with the understanding that what has come out publicly has virtually nothing to do with what has been told to the NCAA privately?

In other words - I trust all of you are working under the assumption that this piece of news isn't "new" to Ohio State or the NCAA, even if it's new to the media....

Yep. I don't see how this new "revelation" about Sarniak changes the story at all, even if it's not exactly the prettiest piece of public news that could have come across the wire. It sounds like as long as OSU has been self-investigating the Tressel-email story for the NCAA, this tidbit has been a part of that story and having it leaked to the press now shouldn't really affect the NCAA's eventual decision.

 

[BB73]

It really doesn't matter what the relationship was though.

It is almost impossible to interpret the forwarding of the email as anything other than a "help me get TP to knock this shit off" message. This of course would have to mean that JT knew the violations had occurred, was intent on keeping it in house and really wasn't as concerned with confidentiality as he tried to portray.

This all gives the NCAA investigators something tangible to interpret as proof of obstrufication if they so choose and that is most certainly a big deal.

It was "almost impossible", but I came up with this as another theory:

"Tell TP that the guy is a drug dealer under investigation, and to stay the hell away from him."

I'm not saying JT didn't commit a violation, but it's very plausible that there were other things on his mind besides the eligibility of the two players in the original emails.

It seems to me that there are at least 4 things JT could have been concerned about:

- the eligibility of his players
- the future of his players, at risk by apparently associating with a criminal
- the confidentiality of a federal investigation
- protecting the idiot lawyer who sent the emails

Many fans and media members seem anxious to ascribe various levels of importance to one or more of those items, depending on their own perceptions, biases, and motives. And the reality of what made JT do what he did (and didn't do) may very well be altered by his own rationalizations.