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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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"Son, we root for a university that has academic standards and those standards need to be guarded by men with principles. Who's gonna do it? You? You, BUCKYLE? Gee has a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Tressel and curse The Ohio State University; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what Gordon Gee knows: that Tressel's termination, while tragic, probably will save academics and that Gee's existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves academics. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at monster truck rallies you want Gordon Gee in Bricker Hall, you need him in Bricker Hall. We use words like integrity, academics and university priorities. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend The Ohio State University. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to men who rise and sleep under the blanket of the very intellectual freedom Ohio State University provides and then question the manner in which it is provided. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a mouse and ignore my posts. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you or Jim Tressel are entitled to."
 
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unionfutura;1897923; said:
To seriously answer your question before, the NCAA really doesn't care about the amount of cash goes to a kid, what really matters did the school facilitate that behavior either through the coaches or through affiliated boosters. Also if the school was aware of such activity what did it do to fix the situation. In our case the head coach was aware of the activity and did nothing, he in fact failed to disclose the violation to compliance, the NCAA, and his AD both in September and in December when the violations came to light.

USC it was only proved that Todd McNair knew of this improper dealings with agents. There was no proof that Pete Carroll was aware of anything (hard to believe but you know), therefore it'll be easier to state that OSU lost institutional control easier than USC.
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It's only easier to prove because USC doesn't have to release internal emails. I'm telling you. Get rid of all email for the coaches. Let them use there personal accounts. personal Smart phones to message eachother etc.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1897933; said:
"Son, we root for a university that has academic standards and those standards need to be guarded by men with principles. Who's gonna do it? You? You, BUCKYLE? Gee has a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Tressel and curse The Ohio State University; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what Gordon Gee knows: that Tressel?s termination, while tragic, probably will save academics and that Gee?s existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves academics. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at monster truck rallies you want Gordon Gee in Bricker Hall, you need him in Bricker Hall. We use words like integrity, academics and university priorities. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend The Ohio State University. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to men who rise and sleep under the blanket of the very intellectual freedom Ohio State University provides and then questions the manner in which it is provided. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a mouse and ignore my posts. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you or Jim Tressel are entitled to."
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Oh...my....LAWD....ROFLOL!!!
 
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Tlangs;1897935; said:
It's only easier to prove because USC doesn't have to release internal emails. I'm telling you. Get rid of all email for the coaches. Let them use there personal accounts. personal Smart phones to message eachother etc.
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I don't believe that's fool-proof either. You can Subpoena cell records via the Freedom of Information act, if I'm not mistaken.
 
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alexhortdog95;1897938; said:
I don't believe that's fool-proof either. You can Subpoena cell records via the Freedom of Information act, if I'm not mistaken.
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don't think the NCAA can subpoena anything for its investigation. You can get records from JT's work email because he is a state employee. The NCAA couldn't get his personal records.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1897933; said:
"Son, we root for a university that has academic standards and those standards need to be guarded by men with principles. Who's gonna do it? You? You, BUCKYLE? Gee has a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Tressel and curse The Ohio State University; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what Gordon Gee knows: that Tressel's termination, while tragic, probably will save academics and that Gee's existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves academics. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at monster truck rallies you want Gordon Gee in Bricker Hall, you need him in Bricker Hall. We use words like integrity, academics and university priorities. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend The Ohio State University. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to men who rise and sleep under the blanket of the very intellectual freedom Ohio State University provides and then questions the manner in which it is provided. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a mouse and ignore my posts. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you or Jim Tressel are entitled to."
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To which I add these comments from a Michigan sports writer:

Jonathan Chait
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As a proud grad, life member of the alumni association and regular giver to the College of Education and the scholarship fund, I've always been a believer in the integrity of the school. I believed that OSU played the game at another level, that they did not indulge in the kind of buying of players I believed to be rampant at places such as USC or Alabama. That faith has been rattled.
 
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I truly hope that somehow Tressel can explain all this. He just doesn't seem like a guy that would just lie to win.

For now, I am just going to put all this "new" Tressel stuff on hold for a little while. In the meantime I am getting ready to watch the Sully and the Bullies take Kentucky to the woodshed.
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FrancisSoyer;1897941; said:
I think that Tressel remarked that few OSU coaches ever ride into the sunset on their own terms. This situation looks worse every day for him. I hate that it all goes back to athletes selling their own stuff for tattoos!
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They fired the guy before Woody and they have fired everyone since including Woody.

It all goes back to Tressel making a poor decision and then compounding it with more poor decisions. What the players did wrong could have been handled easily.
 
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Jaxbuck;1897949; said:
They fired the guy before Woody and they have fired everyone since including Woody.

It all goes back to Tressel making a poor decision and then compounding it with more poor decisions. What the players did wrong could have been handled easily.
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Not only easily, but had JT come clean after receiving the e-mails, proactively suspended the players and notified the NCAA, Ohio State (and JT) would have been held up as a shining example of doing things right in intercollegiate athletics.

The fact that he'd share the info with Pryor's hometown "mentor" but not his employer is the final straw for me. Any employee who acted similarly--whether in the private or public sector--would be summarily dismissed. The time has come!
 
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