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Every "Know it all" at the water cooler is saying that OSU has to fire tressel now that Tennesse has dismissed Pearl.
I actually started laughing and walked away without saying anything.
I actually started laughing and walked away without saying anything.
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Colvinnl
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Coqui;1895812; said:
At first that is exactly how I saw it, but now I am left wondering. Tress committed an NCAA violation by not disclosing the problem when he found out about it. Then he was less than truthful when he signed the certification and was interviewed by the NCAA in December 2010.
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heisman;1895716; said:
It's more like the difference between manslaughter and premeditated murder. What Pearl did was much more egregious but they both lied to the NCAA to cover up violations they knew existed.
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BUCKYLE;1895848; said:
He signed a document swearing he knew of no violations when he in fact did.
That is lying.
Pearl lied more/worse but both lied to the NCAA about violations they knew existed.
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Colvinnl;1895845; said:
I believe the more accurate statement is:
Tress allegedly committed a NCAA violation by not disclosing the potential for a violation when he received emails from an attorney identifying memorabilia belonging to OSU players in the possession of one undergoing investigation by the FBI for drug distribution. Then he did not provide full disclosure when he signed the certification and was interviewed by the NCAA in December 2010.
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Gatorubet
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http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:V4omcv_hMckJ:www.waxxtv.com/%3Fp%3D14648+december+23+gene+smith+press+conrference&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com
The only site I could find with the December 23, 2010 presser. I wish I had a better link. It keeps telling me of a script problem. If anyone has a link to it that is less troublesome, they can post it.
I do not think Coach will get in much trouble for the April and June e-mails and not telling anyone during that time frame. That is not so much of a big deal to me. But I worry more than anyone here seems to about his September and December actions. But you never know about the NCAA. I thought they would kill FSU, but they gave them a love tap even though they illegally kept players eligible in multiple sports and even though it involved FSU employees.
I would not be shocked to see them (NCAA) bless the 5 game suspension. [strike] I think it more likely that they sit him for a year.[/strike] I don't want to see any bets on this, as I do not "want it" to happen, but that is my best guess. If Dez Brant sits a year for not telling the truth about a lunch, I wonder what they will do with the September certificate and the December investigation. [strike] If Tress spoke with the NCAA at all in December in connection with the tat-gate investigation, and did not tell them what he knew, I think he may be sitting for a year.[/strike] * If they never spoke with him as a part of the December investigation and deal that led to the players being eligible for the Sugar, then they may add a few more games for the face save and leave it at that.
* (EDIT: I think it is clear that coach Tressel did not speak to the NCAA in December. One would think that a coach would be held more accountable than a player for a knowing falsehood - or at the very least the same. If the cert is seen as a "lie" , then the Dez case says he should sit a year for the certificate. If not, then the 5 games may be good )
The only site I could find with the December 23, 2010 presser. I wish I had a better link. It keeps telling me of a script problem. If anyone has a link to it that is less troublesome, they can post it.
I do not think Coach will get in much trouble for the April and June e-mails and not telling anyone during that time frame. That is not so much of a big deal to me. But I worry more than anyone here seems to about his September and December actions. But you never know about the NCAA. I thought they would kill FSU, but they gave them a love tap even though they illegally kept players eligible in multiple sports and even though it involved FSU employees.
I would not be shocked to see them (NCAA) bless the 5 game suspension. [strike] I think it more likely that they sit him for a year.[/strike] I don't want to see any bets on this, as I do not "want it" to happen, but that is my best guess. If Dez Brant sits a year for not telling the truth about a lunch, I wonder what they will do with the September certificate and the December investigation. [strike] If Tress spoke with the NCAA at all in December in connection with the tat-gate investigation, and did not tell them what he knew, I think he may be sitting for a year.[/strike] * If they never spoke with him as a part of the December investigation and deal that led to the players being eligible for the Sugar, then they may add a few more games for the face save and leave it at that.
* (EDIT: I think it is clear that coach Tressel did not speak to the NCAA in December. One would think that a coach would be held more accountable than a player for a knowing falsehood - or at the very least the same. If the cert is seen as a "lie" , then the Dez case says he should sit a year for the certificate. If not, then the 5 games may be good )
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Gatorubet
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gracelhink;1895874; said:
Grace, I've never seen anything to confirm that Tess was interviewed by the NCAA in December. In fact, the letter from Gee states that Tressel was questioned by the institution as part of its investigation on December 16. I do not see where he EVER directly spoke with the NCAA in December. Which is a lucky thing. Not telling tOSU is bad. Lying to the NCAA when directly asked is a whole other thing.
Where the September thing fits in the NCAA's head I have no idea. I would venture a guess that it covers more "general" issues than specific question about a specific allegation. I tried to do a search of NCAA violations involving compliance certs and found nothing. Which is good for y'all I think.
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