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WaitingforKickoff
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Steve19;1306670; said:
Truer words have never been spoken. 64% completion percent for 226 yards when our entire running game was shut down. I just don't know what else you can ask for. To those of you blaming the loss on starting the true freshman, do you honest believe that Boeckman would have done better than that against PSU last night?
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I really do not like lumping every Buckeye fan into one group and then moving them into another. Just because fan A says one thing, it might not be what fan B, C or D says. Don't label us as waffeling if the loudest voices move from fans A to fans D.
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scarletngray
Gold Pants
TP played a good game. Those blaming him for the loss are not being realistic at all, imho. We had a blown coverage that led to a FG and a PI that led to a TD. None of that was on TP. That's 10 pts. Without those mistakes we win, no doubt.
TP completed passes to eight different players. You can't hit eight different recievers without the coach "opening up the playbook." TP also got a few key first downs by running the ball, via zone read or a scramble.
The turnover was indeed costly. But what was most costly is WHERE the turnover occurred. It gave Penn State a short field. That is something TP has NOT done all year, until last night.
The failure to move the ball on the ground (PSU loaded the line on first and second down) put all that much more pressure on TP to make plays. On the play that he fumbled the ball, should he have cut inside and just got the first down? Sure. BUT, if he makes the play and indeed makes a TD. Game over. Hero.
It's a disappointing loss. We could have and should have won the game.
Kudos to Penn State for making plays when they had their back to the wall. Here's hoping they win out and go the NC game.
TP completed passes to eight different players. You can't hit eight different recievers without the coach "opening up the playbook." TP also got a few key first downs by running the ball, via zone read or a scramble.
The turnover was indeed costly. But what was most costly is WHERE the turnover occurred. It gave Penn State a short field. That is something TP has NOT done all year, until last night.
The failure to move the ball on the ground (PSU loaded the line on first and second down) put all that much more pressure on TP to make plays. On the play that he fumbled the ball, should he have cut inside and just got the first down? Sure. BUT, if he makes the play and indeed makes a TD. Game over. Hero.
It's a disappointing loss. We could have and should have won the game.
Kudos to Penn State for making plays when they had their back to the wall. Here's hoping they win out and go the NC game.
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At times like these (after a loss) I am sometimes ashamed to be a Buckeye fan. Did TP play a great game and lead the Bucks to victory, no. Was it his fault we lost, no.
He made mistakes, just like every other player who played last night. He will continue to get better and I am tickled pink to know that I will get to watch and enjoy his progression over the next couple of games and years and that he is wearing the uniform of my favorite sports team.
Now back to last nights game, I agree with others who have questioned the play calling, I know that the staff wanted to keep the pressure off, but how can running on first and second down (when the O-line and running game is performing at a far less than stellar rate) and putting TP and the offense in a third and 6-10 yard hole be helping keep the pressure off, everyone in every English speaking country and some who do not speak English knew that tOSU had to pass on those occasions, and still TP was pretty successfull.
Early on plays seemed to have Penn States defense off balance, by mixing in some passing and non run up the middle plays on all downs, not just third. I continue to grow more and more frustrated at the play calling and the level of play of the O-line and find it harder and harder not to bash something or someone. Hopefully JT sees the same thing and with the current crop of Frosh linemen plus Boren and the incoming guys added to the more seasoned experienced TP and recievers and next year and the following years will be something special.
He made mistakes, just like every other player who played last night. He will continue to get better and I am tickled pink to know that I will get to watch and enjoy his progression over the next couple of games and years and that he is wearing the uniform of my favorite sports team.
Now back to last nights game, I agree with others who have questioned the play calling, I know that the staff wanted to keep the pressure off, but how can running on first and second down (when the O-line and running game is performing at a far less than stellar rate) and putting TP and the offense in a third and 6-10 yard hole be helping keep the pressure off, everyone in every English speaking country and some who do not speak English knew that tOSU had to pass on those occasions, and still TP was pretty successfull.
Early on plays seemed to have Penn States defense off balance, by mixing in some passing and non run up the middle plays on all downs, not just third. I continue to grow more and more frustrated at the play calling and the level of play of the O-line and find it harder and harder not to bash something or someone. Hopefully JT sees the same thing and with the current crop of Frosh linemen plus Boren and the incoming guys added to the more seasoned experienced TP and recievers and next year and the following years will be something special.
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BuckeyeTillIDie
The North Remembers
They need to let him throw the ball more. He was masking some great throws on that last drive (and all night, really) and PSU was off-balance.
I believe we could've moved the ball on them all night had we called more passing plays to move the ball. Illinois had no trouble throwing all over them (and scoring TDs, fwiw).
I believe we could've moved the ball on them all night had we called more passing plays to move the ball. Illinois had no trouble throwing all over them (and scoring TDs, fwiw).
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fourteenandoh
My swing feels like an unfolding lawn chair.
BuckeyeTillIDie;1306884; said:
i think we could have won that game without attempting one running play. the dink and dunk passing game was open all night long, and TP was making good decisions. he can use his feet to buy time, and receivers can break off routes and get open. all in all, i was very happy with everything our team did last night though (including the game plan) except maybe a bit dissapointed in the OL.
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ysubuck
Be water my friend.
Tresselbeliever;1306693; said:
Trainers would have needed a spatula to get Todd off the field last night if he had been in. Hell, Terrelle would have been playing last night anyway because Todd never would have made it this far into the season with the way the OFFENSIVE line has played this year.
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calibuck
Too soon old, too late smart
TP played OK. For a frosh, for a senior, (?), no. He needs some seasoning. He wasn't the first freshman to ever lose a fumble (reminded me of Eddie George at Illinois, fumbled at the goal line, Illini ran it back for a TD to win the game- and he didn't come out too badly, now did he?), and won't be the last. Feel sorry for the kid, because he believes he's invincible, and will always find a way to win.....guess he needs to listen to Billy Joel's classic, where 'you have to learn to lose OK'.
Remember that Troy was a runner first, and then matured into being a passer second. THAT is what won him the Heisman, not his feet. You cannot win them all, even though we try as hard as we might. And he wasn't the only one out there last night. I counted several (:() miscues by all parts of the team. Heck, I thought Robiskie had stick-um on his hands all last season and this, but he actually dropped one. Ouch, but he was due. And I could go on, and on, and on, but everyone else seems to have done the same, so.......Terrelle, just keep on improving, and it will all take care of itself. You're merely a 19 year old youth, trying to shoulder everything yourself. Your attitude is quite admirable, and you received a harsh dose of reality. OK, it's what you do now that will count. I'd wager that everyone of these BP bloggers have 'failed' at some point, and it's what you do now that you will be remembered for. If you pick yourself up off the ground and keep on truckin', plugging, or simply moving forward, or lie there despondent or beaten, that will be your legacy. I'm bettin' that you pick yourself up.
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Remember that Troy was a runner first, and then matured into being a passer second. THAT is what won him the Heisman, not his feet. You cannot win them all, even though we try as hard as we might. And he wasn't the only one out there last night. I counted several (:() miscues by all parts of the team. Heck, I thought Robiskie had stick-um on his hands all last season and this, but he actually dropped one. Ouch, but he was due. And I could go on, and on, and on, but everyone else seems to have done the same, so.......Terrelle, just keep on improving, and it will all take care of itself. You're merely a 19 year old youth, trying to shoulder everything yourself. Your attitude is quite admirable, and you received a harsh dose of reality. OK, it's what you do now that will count. I'd wager that everyone of these BP bloggers have 'failed' at some point, and it's what you do now that you will be remembered for. If you pick yourself up off the ground and keep on truckin', plugging, or simply moving forward, or lie there despondent or beaten, that will be your legacy. I'm bettin' that you pick yourself up.
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fourteenandoh
My swing feels like an unfolding lawn chair.
calibuck;1307097; said:PS, I'd really had thought that we'd see Boeckman on that last drive. Very surprised that Tress left TP in there, when the passing was what was called for.......
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go back and watch that last play. TB probably wouldn't have made it past that defender that blew through the OL like a hot knife through butter. Pryor made an athletic move just to avoid the sack.
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*OSUBucknut10*
Buckaholic
TP played a lot better of game then people are giving him credit for. Yes that fumbled killed us, but it should of never came down to that.
I feel for TP because I know he is putting this on him when he shouldn't. He now has 2 weeks before he can go back out and do something to make up for it.
I might be reaching but... NWstern might want to look out!
I feel for TP because I know he is putting this on him when he shouldn't. He now has 2 weeks before he can go back out and do something to make up for it.
I might be reaching but... NWstern might want to look out!
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One more thing. JoePa and his comment about one turnover being the game. Does anyone else think that Pryor choosing Ohio State over him might have put Paterno's Depends in a twist? He'd love to get into Pryor's head on that one. Good coaching better make sure this kid doesn't buy into it, while learning to let the highlight reel take care of itself.
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BrutusBobcat
Icon and Entertainer
Since a few people around here might need a little pick-me-up, here's my scarlet-glasses "on the positive side" take: this was Terrelle's best game yet as a passer. He's improving his reads, and other than his last pass, made good decisions with the ball.
Look, once the decision was made to go with #2, we knew this day was coming. How many times did this week did we hear about ol' Art's 4 INT day against PSU in 1978?
A player who was having a pretty good game had one really bad break and one really bad throw. I think the Pryor backlash overall in the Buckeye Nation is ridiculous, even if it is just the same old bitch-and-whine crowd, and I wish that all the fans, writers, radio yappers and Internet coaches would dial back their expectation knobs from 11 and be supportive of a supremely talented kid whose only fault is trying a little too hard.
Look, once the decision was made to go with #2, we knew this day was coming. How many times did this week did we hear about ol' Art's 4 INT day against PSU in 1978?
A player who was having a pretty good game had one really bad break and one really bad throw. I think the Pryor backlash overall in the Buckeye Nation is ridiculous, even if it is just the same old bitch-and-whine crowd, and I wish that all the fans, writers, radio yappers and Internet coaches would dial back their expectation knobs from 11 and be supportive of a supremely talented kid whose only fault is trying a little too hard.
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