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WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

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Yertle said:
Why are people assuming that an extra 10-20 pounds will slow Ginn down? It seems like I am probably in the minority here, but I think that's a terrible assumption. What if he put 10 pounds of muscle in each leg? Look at the guys who run 100m track events. I have no idea how much they weigh, but they're built like a brick shithouse. Those dudes have to weigh more than 170. Either that, or they must be about 5' 3".

How about this scenario: Ginn puts on 20 pounds and drops his forty time to 4.15. How would he be in the NFL if that happened?
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Well he'd be a freak of nature, cuz no one's even come close to running a 4.15 thus far. Those guys are typically built like racehorses, but football is not a game of 100 yard dashes. Its a game of speed, agility, change of direction.

Someone with more fitness knowledge than I can comment on this, but I would imagine those guys would all get smoked by Ginn in running an obstacle course.

Mili pointed out that Teddy never got shook up despite taking a few licks. This is not to say he can't be plastered and be put at risk for injury, but he may be quite fine at his current size. He has two more years if he has to bulk up for the NFL.
 
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Roscoe Parrish ran a 4.2 on an outdoor track. I believe that translates to something like a 4.18 on an indoor track.

I think Devin Hester may even be a little bit faster.

I think Hester was actually recruited as a track athlete at "The U."
 
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Oneshot said:
Roscoe Parrish ran a 4.2 on an outdoor track.
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Really? Post the link. I searched pretty thoroughly, but couldn't find where he ran a 4.2. A 4.2 isn't a time that you see everyday, so surely this would have been documented somewhere...other than message board heresay, that is.

The 40 times I did find on him from draft preparations never cracked the 4.40 barrier:

Roscoe Parrish WR The people we talked to said Parrish did everything and more, including running routes, catching punts and speeding around as quick as two cats. He measured in at 5-9¾ and 170 pounds, did 10 reps, had a 10-5½ long jump, a 36-inch vertical, ran 4.47 and 4.40 in his 40s (which compares favorably to his 4.43 time at the combine). He also had a 4.22 short shuttle, an 11.08 long shuttle and a 6.69 in the cone drill.
 
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Oneshot said:
Roscoe Parrish ran a 4.2 on an outdoor track. I believe that translates to something like a 4.18 on an indoor track.

I think Devin Hester may even be a little bit faster.

I think Hester was actually recruited as a track athlete at "The U."
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No electronically timed, he didn't...
 
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Oneshot said:
Roscoe Parrish ran a 4.2 on an outdoor track. I believe that translates to something like a 4.18 on an indoor track.

I think Devin Hester may even be a little bit faster.

I think Hester was actually recruited as a track athlete at "The U."
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I think not. Any time someone reports a speed faster than 4.3, its pretty much Bullcrap.
 
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I think Ginn will stay on offense seeing the HC is the offensive coordinator and he is not willing to give up his star player to defense. I do think he will see some corner on situational downs and distance IMHO. :osu2:
 
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Oneshot said:
Roscoe Parrish ran a 4.2 on an outdoor track. I believe that translates to something like a 4.18 on an indoor track.
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Im not sure thats always true.
For instance, if the wind was at his back, he would be penalized time, not awarded it.

IronBuckI said:
1998 Draft. Not a single Buckeye picked.
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Exactly why that team was #1 going into the 98 season.
Wow, what a team that was.
 
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This is off subject as far as the TGII at CB question...but it's relevant to the 40 times.

First, like others have said...DON'T BELIEVE HAND TIMES! It requires a perfect eye and perfect reflexes to get a good time on that...and it's still left to the opinion of a human. Get out your stopwatch sometime and TRY to stop your clock at exactly 4.4 and see what you get. The timer plays too much of a role.

I've heard a lot of people say that these sub 4.4 40 times are crap, but I believe the electronically timed ones and don't think they are as inflated as a lot of folks believe. Stay with me here...

On February 14th, 1999 Maurice Greene tied the world record in the 50 meters at 5.56 seconds. I am using the 50 meters because it is the closest match to the 40 yard dash (although it is still longer).

There are 36.576 meters in 40 yards.

5.56/50 = n/36.576
n = 4.067

This suggests Maurice Greene's record run would be just over 4 seconds flat in the 40 yard dash! I would tend to say you should weigh the number from 4.067 to 4.05 because the extra distance could have a fatigue factor.

Let's say (for the sake of argument) that Teddy Ginn runs a 4.35 (I don't know for sure what he runs) electronically timed. That would mean Maurice would've beat him by about .3 seconds. If Ted Ginn beat a guy by .3 seconds, that guy would run a 4.65 (about the speed of a fast linebacker or fullback).

Maurice Greene:Ted Ginn II = Ted Ginn II:Fast Linebacker or Fullback

This is a very believable comparison to me.
 
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