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World University Rankings (MEGAMERGE)

UGA is public

calibuck;1094735; said:
Didn't realize that University of Georgia was private, knew Vandy was, but again the disparity between 'top-rated' educational facilities above the Mason-Dixon line and below. Note: there are some top-rated B12 schools, all of which are below the Mason-Dixon line.

:gobucks3::gobucks4::banger:

UGA isn't private - check under General Information on the link. I am not sure of your source but it appears that there was an accidental omission somewhere. In fact, if you are using US News Rankings it would be between OSU and Purdue. As for overall (Public and private) OSU is 57, UGA 59, and Purdue 64 - I don't have the mag at home so I can't give the public only rankings. The rest of your list looks right.

USNews.com: America's Best Colleges 2008: University of Georgia: At a glance
 
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Columbus Business First: Princeton Review realeases top colleges list

If you click through to see the full results (you need a subscription), make sure you look under "T" for tOSU. Like an idiot I was trying to find us under "O"... go figure! :biggrin:

Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 9:46 AM EDT

Princeton Review releases top colleges list

Three Central Ohio schools were listed in the 2009 edition of Princeton Review?s Best 368 Colleges guide.

The company listed Ohio State University in Columbus, Denison University in Granville and Ohio Wesleyan University in Delaware among its top colleges in the nation.

Other top schools in the state included Ohio University in Athens and Wittenberg University in Springfield, as well as the universities of Cincinnati and Dayton, Miami University in Oxford and the colleges of Wooster and Oberlin.

[...] Ohio State was No. 19 for best athletic facilities and Ohio University was dubbed the No. 5 party school.

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And so, to put The Washington Monthly College Rankings together, we started with a different assumption about what constitutes the "best" schools. We asked ourselves: What are reasonable indicators of how much a school is benefiting the country? We came up with three: how well it performs as an engine of social mobility (ideally helping the poor to get rich rather than the very rich to get very, very rich), how well it does in fostering scientific and humanistic research, and how well it promotes an ethic of service to country. We then devised a way to measure and quantify these criteria (See "A Note on Methodology"). Finally, we placed the schools into rankings. Rankings, we admit, are never perfect, but they're also indispensable.

By devising a set of criteria different from those of other college guides, we arrived at sharply different results. Top schools sank, and medium schools rose. For instance, Pennsylvania State University, University Park, 48th on the U.S News list, takes third place on our list, while Princeton, first on the U.S. News list, takes 43rd on ours. In short, Pennsylvania State, measured on our terms -- by the yardstick of fostering research, national service and social mobility -- does a lot more for the country than Princeton.

Don't get us wrong. We're not saying Princeton isn't a superb school. It employs many of the nation's finest minds, and its philosophy department is widely considered the best in the country. Its eating clubs, or whatever they're called, are surely unmatched. Princeton may be a great destination for your tuition dollars, all 31,450 of them, not including room or board. But what if it's a lousy destination for your tax dollars? Each year, Princeton receives millions of dollars in federal research grants. Does it deserve them? What has Princeton done for us lately? This is the only guide that tries to tell you. That, and a bit more.
Absolutely absurd. Princeton does far more for America than Penn State. Their yardsticks are ridiculous.
 
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DaytonBuck;1218998; said:
Absolutely absurd. Princeton does far more for America than Penn State. Their yardsticks are ridiculous.

I don't know about that-I think doctors, teachers, engineers,etc. do a lot more for their communities-in concrete, everyday, tangible benfits than Ivy League hedge fund traders and Post-Modern studies majors who work for a publishing company and dream of opening a vegan-soy eco-latte cafe in Vermont do.
I actually like this way of ranking-being a positive force in the community in a tangible way is a great goal-not just writing a check when charity/conscience calls.
 
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DaytonBuck;1218998; said:
Absolutely absurd. Princeton does far more for America than Penn State. Their yardsticks are ridiculous.
PSU's online GIS curriculum is one example of what they offer in the realm of the education in this country, not to mention the world. If Princeton even has a GIS curriculum, it's no better than State Penn's, it's more expensive, and it's certainly not accessible online.
 
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Zem;1219978; said:
PSU's online GIS curriculum is one example of what they offer in the realm of the education in this country, not to mention the world. If Princeton even has a GIS curriculum, it's no better than State Penn's, it's more expensive, and it's certainly not accessible online.

They just don't like Princeton because of it's pedigree. This survey is the same time of people that canonize a social worker but consider the Princeton alum who starts a computer consulting group for small businesses that creates hundreds of well paying jobs with benefits an evil rich person.
 
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As an academic, I think these rankings provide a good counterpoint to some of the other schemes. However, we must all remember that any of the top 100 US universities offer a high standard of education.
 
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Zem;1219978; said:
PSU's online GIS curriculum is one example of what they offer in the realm of the education in this country, not to mention the world. If Princeton even has a GIS curriculum, it's no better than State Penn's, it's more expensive, and it's certainly not accessible online.
Right on. And we all know that online GIS curricula should be the primary metric when judging universities.
 
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DaytonBuck;1218998; said:
Absolutely absurd. Princeton does far more for America than Penn State. Their yardsticks are ridiculous.

stxbuck;1219816; said:
I don't know about that-I think doctors, teachers, engineers,etc. do a lot more for their communities-in concrete, everyday, tangible benfits than Ivy League hedge fund traders and Post-Modern studies majors who work for a publishing company and dream of opening a vegan-soy eco-latte cafe in Vermont do.
I actually like this way of ranking-being a positive force in the community in a tangible way is a great goal-not just writing a check when charity/conscience calls.

Princeton does much more than PSU. Among other things, the government does alot of ridiculous stuff along side the University and the center for Advanced Studies...

In the Nation's service. In the service of all nations.
 
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MaxBuck;1220270; said:
Right on. And we all know that online GIS curricula should be the primary metric when judging universities.
Wasn't expecting wise-ass backlash for such an innocuous statement. But, knowing that you tried to compare Harvard with South Carolina St, I shouldn't be surprised. I did not say that online gis curricula should be the "primary metric." I said it's "one example."
 
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DaytonBuck;1220064; said:
They just don't like Princeton because of it's pedigree. This survey is the same time of people that canonize a social worker but consider the Princeton alum who starts a computer consulting group for small businesses that creates hundreds of well paying jobs with benefits an evil rich person.
It seems like you have a bit of a complex since there is no basis for that reasoning. My point is simply that PSU is more useful in distance learning and that discipline. That fits the study's standards.
 
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Zem;1220507; said:
It seems like you have a bit of a complex since there is no basis for that reasoning. My point is simply that PSU is more useful in distance learning and that discipline. That fits the study's standards.

I guess then, by that measure, the University of Phoenix should rank above everybody, right? :p
 
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Zem;1220497; said:
Wasn't expecting wise-ass backlash for such an innocuous statement. But, knowing that you tried to compare Harvard with South Carolina St, I shouldn't be surprised. I did not say that online gis curricula should be the "primary metric." I said it's "one example."
Look, one can choose whatever criteria one wants when defining "excellence" in post-secondary education. Hell, you can base your selection on how tasty the mystery meat is in the dining halls. But if you choose to send your kid to SoCarolinaSt instead of Hahvahd, or State Penn instead of Princeton, guess what? Your kid becomes the proud product of natural selection.
 
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