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Weis's Play Calling in the ND BYU game

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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
And just what domers do on message boards? Same thing as OSU fans...
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Not quite. Yes, I'm stereotyping. Domers tend to act like everyone is a domer fan, or if they're not they should be and if they won't be it's because they are morons.

Fact is, ND nation is high on the list of most annoying fan base in the country. Maybe you think OSU is too. That's fine, and is your right. Every program has its bad apple fans. In my expierence, ND has too many. OU and Miami do too. As does Michigan.

NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
And ND did not reschedule OSU because unlike OSU, ND plays that type of schedule alll the time.
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We've been thru this time and time again. ND's schedule isn't particularly intense. I'm not going to argue this same arguement again, as it's clear there is no convincing you otherwise, and I'd hate to set you up for another "time out"
 
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Just b/c you have a lot of familiar names does not make your schedule unbeatable. I would not question ND having a tough schedule, but Michigan, Washington and a number of other recognizeable schools are not nearly as tough as they once were.
 
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osugrad21 said:
Fact: Charlie Weis is a damn good coach and ND will be a major player in the 3 years

Fact: ND lost to tOSU in back to back years, ND then declined to play tOSU in another series

Fact: ND plays a tough schedule year in and year out.

Fact: tOSU is playing a pretty damn tough schedule also and the Big Ten is full of teams on the rise

Fact: Weis is doing a fantastic job of recruiting....tOSU always does a good job getting talent.

Fact: NDChief is a rabid fan who defends his program with great pride even though he may sometimes have a skewed view due to his loyalty...so do we as Buckeye fans.

Fact: This argument is like a broken record that somehow keeps finding its way to the forum
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fact: jo thinks these are all facts.
 
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jimotis4heisman said:
fact: jo thinks these are all facts.
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fact: Cbf40 think jo is post padding.:biggrin:

Anyways, I agree with all of what Grad said, I think the argument comes up more and more, b/c it seems we play the same teams every year, we are very close in location, they recruit players out of our backyard, yet we have only played them 4 times. Even the thread of us having a chance to play them in a bowl game went to about 3 pages I think.
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Sure every year you all TRY to put a spin on it and try and make the schedules look sort of even when in fact you can check any SOS ranking and ND always wins out. I did not bring up the schedules I was simply having fun with Texas before someone brought up the last 2 times ND -OSU played.
Then you all went there.....

The only reason you all can pound your chest is that this year you play a top-notch OTC opponent. As for this year yes ND's SOS is down but even at that last week Sagarin had ND's SOS #1 which will surely go down the second half of the season.

As for you Daddy you mentioned 1988 which was the last year ND won a title. Try again...


What in the hell does ND not joining the Big 10 and not playing OSU have to do with who has the tougher schedule? We played USC and OSU is NOT better than USC.
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Chief, we realize that you are a solid fan and I for one am not disrespecting your team or the new coach. However, the facts are...
  • The strength of schedule across a wide range of computer ratings showed that your allegations about strength of schedule this year are not accurate.
  • My post last year showed that, according to the Marsee ratings, there wasn't much difference in the strength of schedule the last ten years. In fact, there was no statistically significant difference between the schedules. See http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12230&highlight=Notre+Dame

Here is the ratings from that thread in graph form, right click and open in a new window.

I agree with everything Grad said, except that I think Notre Dame is a player right now. I think you are right in that Notre Dame plays a tough schedule but so does Ohio State and, because it is in the Big Ten, year in and out, it gets tougher as the year goes on. I think year in and out it might be fair to say that Notre Dame's schedule is front loaded with tougher teams.

I think Weis is doing all the right things and I sincerely respect what he has accomplished this year. I still think we could take Notre Dame. I respect your right to disagree. I also think that opinions are like noses, everyone has one.

Why do I think that Notre Dame's refusal to enter the Big Ten is relevant? There are two reasons.
  • If we want to get beyond opinions, then there is one way, line 'em up and play it out. Ohio State has stated its desire to play more games, Notre Dame has refused. If Notre Dame was in the Big Ten, it would have to face Ohio State regularly.
  • Lose early and you end up with a better ranking. In my opinion, Notre Dame wouldn't be able to load the last five games as it has this year if it was in the Big Ten.
Clearly, Grad is a bit frustrated that we have this discussion, and I guess we all are. My point is, if you want to disagree with something I have posted, then by all means do, but put some objective facts on the table that support your point of view.

This could be an interesting discussion about two of the most storied programmes in Division 1 football history if everyone wants that and everyone might just learn something.
 
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Oiler, you make a good point. I must admit that I really resent it when he rises to defend every comment that does not reflect favorably on Notre Dame. I don't think most people are trying to bait NDChief, but rather just to express their opinions about Notre Dame.

I actually sent NDChief a message last week to encourage him to keep posting in the positive way that he has this year.

Having said that, when Ohio State was being pilloried in the media, NDChief stood right beside us. He made a number of comments in support of Ohio State on this board and I understand on the ND board.

NDChief is NOT our enemy.

But, to be perfectly frank and with all due respect to him, if there were no TSUN, Notre Dame would be first on my list of teams I'd like to beat 100-0 every year while playing them in front of their extended families.:biggrin:
 
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Congrats on winning at home Notre Dame...I have a feeling Notre Dame loses a game that nobody thinks they will this year. They lose to an overrated USC team, and everbody is up their ass. Give me a break. Ohio State could have barely lost to USC too ya know...we can barely lose to anybody. Barely losing is LOSING!!! You've lost 2 games...you suck. That's all I got. I hate Notre Dame. Where the hell where all these Notre Dame losers when they sucked? At least Penn State fans are loyal...although I hate them too. AHHHHH...the whole world of college football sucks right now. I'm an arrogant Buckeye fan, and if you aren't a buckeye...you suck! :)
 
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JonathanXC said:
Congrats on winning at home Notre Dame...I have a feeling Notre Dame loses a game that nobody thinks they will this year. They lose to an overrated USC team, and everbody is up their ass. Give me a break. Ohio State could have barely lost to USC too ya know...we can barely lose to anybody. Barely losing is LOSING!!! You've lost 2 games...you suck. That's all I got. I hate Notre Dame. Where the hell where all these Notre Dame losers when they sucked? At least Penn State fans are loyal...although I hate them too. AHHHHH...the whole world of college football sucks right now. I'm an arrogant Buckeye fan, and if you aren't a buckeye...you suck! :)
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by this logic ohio state sucks too.
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Fact is that ND is still scheduling the 28 in a row 2 time NC Trojans! So your point means nothing.

Also instead of scheduling OSU, ND instead went out and continued to schedule a Michigan team that owned OSU in the 90's.....
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OK, asswipe, this is the last fucking time I'm going to spoon-feed this to you, capiche?

1.) Your boasting about playing USC means nothing because you play them every year. They've been on your schedule every year since 1926 (except for 1943, 1944, and 1945 due to WWII). So don't give us the "we went out and purposely scheduled USC knowing they're the national champs" shit. My point was, as usual, fucking spot-on.

2.) You didn't "instead" go out and scheduled Michigan...you've been playing them nearly every year since 1978. Your Michigan games for 1997, 1998, and 1999 were already on your schedule even before the 1995 and 1996 OSU/ND games were played. In fact, the only four times since 1984 that you didn't play Michigan were in 1995 and 1996 when we played you, and in 2000 and 2001 when "coincidently" both OSU and ND had open dates on the same day both years. That's why OSU offered to play ND two more times because ND had those openings...yet ND declined. I'm sure it would've been a different story had ND won the games in 1995 and 1996.

Notre Dame is stuck with playing USC and Michigan from now on, because if they drop them from your schedule it will appear that you're dodging them. So, you can't pat yourself on the back for continuing to play them. As for playing OSU, ND simply avoids scheduling OSU because they know a game with OSU is likely another ass-pounding like a decade ago.
 
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