Value City Arena (official thread)

[Golferdow01]

thanks for answering my question golfer

No problem JO, it's the thought that counts

 

[MaxBuck]

Not sure on your second statement, but all the rest I agree with here.

My second statement relates to students who have voiced complaints that the Schott is much further from their residences than SJA. Not sure that really makes much sense, but increasing campus transit to encourage more student participation seems reasonable to me.

My guess would be that you are a PSL holder.

Actually, I'm not.

But noone is saying move all the PSL holders out and let the student sit there. There need to be students behind the bench tho. It is like that everywhere else besides here.

Actually, it is NOT the case that "everywhere else" students are put directly behind the benches.

One thing that I has been said is that if they could reconfigure the lower bowl and make it steeper and add some more seats, so the students can get some. Also this would make the opposing team feel like they are right on top of them if they make the seats steeper.

I'm not sure how making the bowl steeper would add seats. In any event, such a measure would be very expensive from a construction standpoint.

So if we could get both ends of the court for students and about a section of 1500 or so behind the opposing bench, I think that the place would be much better.

Putting 1500 students behind the bench would essentially move all the 100-level fans who are there now into the nosebleed section. I do agree that setting aside sections behind the baskets for students should be very do-able, and I'd like to see that happen -- so long as the students then actually show up and make noise.

The schott does have poor home-court advantage in the fact b/c it is not intmidating to the opponents.

This statement has been a number of times without any real justification. I think if people are going to trumpet this, they need to provide some facts to back it up.

St. John's had better home court advantage, who cares how nice the place is, I would rather have a rowdy crowd that helped the team.

Actually, since I attend the games I DO care how nice the place is. I also think 19,000 loud and rowdy fans beats 12,000 loud and rowdy fans.

If you don't think the students are the best fans, well then you must not watch them at the games.

Actually, I have a bunch who sit in front of me at games and basically play grab-ass with one another on date night. Not sure why it is better to have fans that do that as opposed to crochet. (Neither one, of course, is acceptable.)

Just look at a non-conference football game crowd, while the other people cheer, the students are not all there b/c they are not back from break yet, so the orginization is not there, and the stadium isnt quite as loud for the other games.

When I watch the bball games on tv, you see the peopel with the premium seats just sitting on their hands. Hell all it takes is to cheer along with the students. Not asking people to paint their faces and act like a cameron crazies, but just clap your hands and show a little entusiasm throughout the whole game and not just at certain points.

I'm as peeved by quiet, uninvolved fans as anybody. On the other hand, I also recognize that some people just aren't into getting loud and crazy. Unfortunate, but there it is.

You would think that kirk would be a good person to have lead the charge b/c he has played in a very good homefield advantage type atmosphere and places that suck to play at. While it be football he still understands homecourt advantage, not sure if you do.

I appreciate your thoughtful responses. We disagree on some points, but I think there is room to disagree on these and still be civil. Thanks for the discussion!

 

[jwinslow]

I appreciate your sentiments max, tho I still have some objections. I think even just 5 rows of bouncing students would create a huge difference in atmosphere. While they would make some noise, their fanaticism and excitement would be visible and hopefully rub off on many of the others around the arena.

Actually, it is NOT the case that "everywhere else" students are put directly behind the benches.

Do you know of many major bball teams who have a tiny student section behind one basket? I know of some with end zone seats, but those extend a lot further than ours (ie 50-100 rows).

The schott does have poor home-court advantage in the fact b/c it is not intmidating to the opponents.

This statement has been a number of times without any real justification. I think if people are going to trumpet this, they need to provide some facts to back it up.

Wisconsin.

St. John's had better home court advantage, who cares how nice the place is, I would rather have a rowdy crowd that helped the team.

Actually, since I attend the games I DO care how nice the place is. I also think 19,000 loud and rowdy fans beats 12,000 loud and rowdy fans.

You said it was absurd that anyone would claim that St. John's was a better venue. I guarantee that statement hinged on how mild the Schott atmosphere can be. I don't think this thread would exist if our 19,000 were actually loud with any consistency.

If you don't think the students are the best fans, well then you must not watch them at the games.

Actually, I have a bunch who sit in front of me at games and basically play grab-ass with one another on date night. Not sure why it is better to have fans that do that as opposed to crochet. (Neither one, of course, is acceptable.)

how do the nominal student fans seated in front of you override the consistent cheering exemplified by the student section in the schott? Given a little time, it doesn't seem far fetched that the block O crowd could learn to do the same at bball games. I'm not suggesting it will ever reach the popularity of fball however.

 

[VprHis]

The schott does have poor home-court advantage in the fact b/c it is not intmidating to the opponents.

This statement has been a number of times without any real justification. I think if people are going to trumpet this, they need to provide some facts to back it up.

Well, it's not solid PROOF, but let me quote one of my undergrads. "I don't worry about playing in Columbus, because the crowd is non-existent. The refs don't fear for their lives, meaning it's about the only house in the conference that gets an evenly-called game."

In other words, our house does not scare people. I've been to the Schott when it's rockin (opening season), and I've been to Breslin, and the Schott's louder. But Breslin is sustained, and nasty, and it affects the opposing team--and let's not forget that the Bres is significantly smaller. I just don't see that in the Schott all that often.

I'd love to see the entire lower bowl as a student/Athletic Band section, but I bow to the fiscal necessity of not doing so. Nevertheless, SOMETHING needs to be done to help with fan involvement... maybe we'll get lucky and the Thad 5 will kick start it, but I HATE relying on luck...


Typical post by me. Gripe, complain, and offer no real thought of value. I'll see if anything comes to mind.

 

[crazybuckfan40]

Pays a lot more for football, pays $17 a ticket for bball in the nosebleed section. That's plenty. No student should have to pay $17 for a bball game.

Especiallly to see them play FAMU.

I posted it earlier, but It kind of warrants being brought up here, that we are the highest ticket in the big ten for student tickets.

I think scUM was only 7. Ours are 12. So say there are 15 homes games, and a difference of 5 dollars a game. That makes for a savings of 75 dollars. Hell that is more about 3/4 of what students pay for the big ten football package.

 

[smith288]

Also when they throw those T-shirts in the crowd - have some cheerleaders go to the upper bowl and toss them in the crowd on each side of the upper bowl.

I went to the FL A&M game and the cheerleaders do go to the upper bowl.

 

[OH10]

Here's my suggestion/compromise:

1. Lower student ticket prices by $5 for non-conference games and $2 for conference games.

2. Send out student ticket information to the students like they do with football tickets. My freshmen year at Ohio State, I had to buy regular tickets because I missed the student deadline. Why? No one advertised it to the students.

3. Put the students in the lower bowl together. Having them separated is ridiculous. Give them half of the seats behind the benches, and connect it to the students behind the basketball hoop. This should be simple with a little rearranging involving the media moving up and out of the prime seats.

4. Give students their own busing from the dorms and High Street area. It's absurd that most of the CABS on campus are carting people from the far parking lot out there rather than having a few dedicated solely to transporting student.

5. Sell Natural Light at the Arena (alright, that's just me being selfish.)

 

[osugrad21]

Scout $-- Growth Spurt On The Way For Schott

Improvements include additional practice gyms, coaches offices, team meeting rooms, a video room, training/rehab areas and an area that celebrates the history of the Buckeye basketball programs.

 

[bukIpower]

I wish our basketball team would play other places than the Nation Wide Arena. I mean when I attend skull sessions the noise was AWESOME, even more impressive than the noise of the shoe'. We should play where the skull sessions were (I'm pretty sure thats the schott).

Since I'll be attending OSU in the fall how much do tickets for basketball/football games run??

 

[jimotis4heisman]

I wish our basketball team would play other places than the Nation Wide Arena. I mean when I attend skull sessions the noise was AWESOME, even more impressive than the noise of the shoe'. We should play where the skull sessions were (I'm pretty sure thats the schott).

Since I'll be attending OSU in the fall how much do tickets for basketball/football games run??

its nationwide arena

skull session is at st johns, that used to be the basketball arena.
i dont think playing games in the shoe is likely to happen.

have a great day, and you got into theosu? what happened to the "new admissions standards"

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

I wish our basketball team would play other places than the Nation Wide Arena. I mean when I attend skull sessions the noise was AWESOME, even more impressive than the noise of the shoe'. We should play where the skull sessions were (I'm pretty sure thats the schott).

Since I'll be attending OSU in the fall how much do tickets for basketball/football games run??

The Schott is where most of the home games are played. The Skull Session is in St. John Arena. Nationwide Arena is the Blue Jackets' arena. OSU played YSU there last season, but that was an anomaly.

I do wish they could arrange to get a couple more games in St. John.

 

[OmahaBeef]

I wish our basketball team would play other places than the Nation Wide Arena. I mean when I attend skull sessions the noise was AWESOME, even more impressive than the noise of the shoe'. We should play where the skull sessions were (I'm pretty sure thats the schott).

Since I'll be attending OSU in the fall how much do tickets for basketball/football games run??

The Schott is where the basketball team currently plays. St. John Arena is where the Skull Session are held.

 

[jimotis4heisman]

The Schott is where most of the home games are played. The Skull Session is in St. John Arena. Nationwide Arena is the Blue Jackets' arena. OSU played YSU there last season, but that was an anomaly.

I do wish they could arrange to get a couple more games in St. John.

they also played va tech at the nat a couple of years ago

it should be noted that the schott has more season ticket holders than st johns has seats. st johns seats 13,276-highest attendance was 13,681 and was completed in 1956, the building was named after lynn st john former basketball coach and ad. two of the coolest facts, the building only cost 4m dollars and no persons seat is farther than 155ft 6 inches from center circle (the place also boosts not one obstructed seat-tell that to the fat bald guy who sat in front of me for many years...)

 

[bukIpower]

I had no clue that the nationwide arena was the Schott... lol

Ok well I liked the feel of St. Johns Arena its a bit small and cramped but I think it'd be a much more of a home court advantage than the Schott. For sure the schott is a really good recruiting tool IMO.

lol, I was never asking about playing games in the shoe' but I was referencing that for the games I attended (Cincy 04, Texas 05') I was equally impressed with the noise level at St. Johns as I was with the shoe'.

I think admissions felt sorry for me or something.. haha I just wrote them to get me the hell out of Gopher territory and damn I'm attending OSU' next fall.

 

[LitlBuck]

The Schott is where Ohio State plays its home basketball games and for the second time this season the game clock and shot clock above the basket has gone out when they had been ready to start the second half. For all the money they have put into that place would someone please call an electrician to evaluate the situation or have a couple of shot clocks readily available in case something does happen.

I mean for that to happen twice in one season is an embarrassment. It never happened at St. John that I can recall.