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Urban F. Meyer (Former OSU, CFB and NFL coach)

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zincfinger said:
This is not a criticism of Drake; he may well be doing an outstanding job. But the article you cited was a pure puff piece - of the kind you would despise if it were written about, say, Jim Tressel (and articles like this have been written about Jim Tressel). Full of good-feeling buzz words and largely unquantified assertions.
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The point of the piece isn't necessarily what's in it. It's who's writing it: a former trustee and current foundation board member. Maybe it's the old Kremlinologist in me, but I see that--and where it was chosen to be published--as getting out the word publicly that Drake enjoys the support of the people in power at Ohio State. As or quantifying Drake's achievements, I think that's pretty easy to do in everything from the average SAT score of entering freshmen to the dollar amount of the endowment, annual fundraising (topped half a billion for the first time) and research budgets to the billion dollar operating surplus that the university ran last year.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
It wasn't a matter of "They thought they were going to grace the field with their presence", but rather it was one of the very few times that a Saban staff didn't know what to do, seeing as they had a grand total of about five quarters of game film on Cardale Jones. To tell you the absolute honest truth, I'm not sure we win that game if we had JT...nothing against JT but 'Bammer had a whole season's worth of tape on the Barrett-focused offense.
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Bama also inexplicably abandoned a running back that we couldn’t stop.
 
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jwinslow said:
Yes, OSU attracts talent (and ratings) better than almost anyone, but that was an incredibly rare situation. OSU fired Tressel in part because Meyer was lurking and available. Usually it ends quite poorly to replace a coaching legend that has fallen from grace.

Bama is like OSU and will have folks beating down their doors to succeed Saban. That does not change the difficulty of that task, or the likelihood of a dropoff after doing so.
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No, but I've also lost enough TV remotes over Arsene Wenger to know the problems with unconditional reverence for "coaching legends" and the crippling fear people have over losing them. What gets lost in these conversations about whether or not a successor would be able to replicate the legend's success is whether or not the legend will be able to continue to replicate their own success.

I'm of the opinion that Urban retires sooner rather than later, possibly after this season. Ohio State will have a lower floor, short-term or long-term, but, barring some monumental fuckups, the ceiling will remain the same with or without him.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
The point of the piece isn't necessarily what's in it. It's who's writing it: a former trustee and current foundation board member. Maybe it's the old Kremlinologist in me, but I see that--and where it was chosen to be published--as getting out the word publicly that Drake enjoys the support of the people in power at Ohio State. As or quantifying Drake's achievements, I think that's pretty easy to do in everything from the average SAT score of entering freshmen to the dollar amount of the endowment, annual fundraising (topped half a billion for the first time) and research budgets to the billion dollar operating surplus that the university ran last year.
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Great! He's right up there with Richard Armitage! (So let's see how good your Buckeye history knowledge is.)

Participation trophies all around. Will you pleeze go, Buckeyes?!?!? PuhLEEEEEEEEEEZE?!?!?!? :oh:
 
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buckeyebri said:
We’ve been down this road before, but anyway to :horse: a little more. The University was their own worst enemy in how they handled it. Major incompetence in doing anything to manage the narrative. Smith had as much blame if not more than Meyer and has had none of the backlash.

I would hope none of us ever face that level of social media hypocrisy and workplace leadership dysfunction.

Now we have more baseless media articles apparently going in for the kill. I for one hope Meyer can find the strength, courage, and support he needs to fix the problems and continue leading the Buckeyes.
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Who are you kidding, Gene was on vacation, remember?

(Yes, I know. That kinda proves the point.)
 
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zincfinger said:
This is not a criticism of Drake; he may well be doing an outstanding job. But the article you cited was a pure puff piece - of the kind you would despise if it were written about, say, Jim Tressel (and articles like this have been written about Jim Tressel). Full of good-feeling buzz words and largely unquantified assertions.
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It's almost like tOSU's PR department showed up for work.
 
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pianobuck46 said:
Uh, Richard Armitage never fired Woody or any other "foosball" coach, as you so eloquently put it. BTW, your Buckeye historical knowledge sucks.

Try again.
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He was the chair of the Ohio State faculty athletic council who informed Woody that he was shitcanned, which is why "told" is the verb in the sentence not "fired." The decision was made by Hindman. Or did you mean the disgraced Bush administration official who outed Valerie Plame? I assumed it was the former since you were so intent on tying it to Ohio State history.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
He was the chair of the Ohio State faculty athletic council who informed Woody that he was shitcanned, which is why "told" is the verb in the sentence not "fired." The decision was made by Hindman. Or did you mean the disgraced Bush administration official who outed Valerie Plame? I assumed it was the former since you were so intent on tying it to Ohio State history.
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Think 1961, long before the firing.
 
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