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Urban F. Meyer (Former OSU, CFB and NFL coach)

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UFM was what tOSU needed at the time. After Tressel's departure, and Fickel's interim, adding Urban was super. He (in my opinion) elevated tOSU recruiting profile higher than any other coach in our history. Actually, believe he elevated the B10 teams recruiting because they had to get better to keep up. Somebody might want to search UFM's Florida history, to see if there were parallels in his 'downfall' there. Personally, believe he hired his friends, rather than the best position coaches available (or could be wooed to the good guys). The WR and LB coaches were atrocious, but he remained faithful to them, rather than cutting them loose. (Both are now out of football, no?). That caused players not to want to come here, etc. Anyway, only my opinion. I praise him for what he brought to tOSU, but everyone has a shelf life, and his expired here. As will Day's in his time.
 
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calibuck said:
UFM was what tOSU needed at the time. After Tressel's departure, and Fickel's interim, adding Urban was super. He (in my opinion) elevated tOSU recruiting profile higher than any other coach in our history. Actually, believe he elevated the B10 teams recruiting because they had to get better to keep up. Somebody might want to search UFM's Florida history, to see if there were parallels in his 'downfall' there. Personally, believe he hired his friends, rather than the best position coaches available (or could be wooed to the good guys). The WR and LB coaches were atrocious, but he remained faithful to them, rather than cutting them loose. (Both are now out of football, no?). That caused players not to want to come here, etc. Anyway, only my opinion. I praise him for what he brought to tOSU, but everyone has a shelf life, and his expired here. As will Day's in his time.
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I think UM ran a complete shitshow at Florida. For that reason, I was very skeptical of his hiring at Ohio State, but I came to believe that he truly learned from his mistakes at Florida. In fact, you can argue that he overcompensated in the zero tolerance direction as witnessed by the Hyde and Robie suspensions. The problem is that the underlying personality trait of believing that he was bigger than the university remained, and some of that arrogance led to the Zach Smith fiasco which ultimately ended his tenure. I'm not one to put football coaches on a pedestal but neither do I think UM was this terrible person that his detractors portray him as. As usual, reality is somewhere in the messy grey area.

The Aaron Hernandez doc should be interesting.
 
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Now that you bring it up, recollect there was that element of 'lack of institutional control' at Florida. Was so utterly happy that tOSU got a coach of his caliber, overlooked the pimples. Agree that UFM evolved while at the helm of the Buckeyes, and the players not so out-of-control here. His coaching hires, namely Zach Smith (grandson of his mentor) and Bill Davis (UFM's best man) was clearly favoritism, keeping them as well, and added to his downfall. Yeah, the gray area encompasses many things, in all things. Go Bucks!
 
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