Urban F. Meyer (Former OSU, CFB and NFL coach)

[BUCK3YE5]

Program stability. If a successor isn't in place, and it's an open coaching search, there's an obvious large-scale transition. If it's handed off to Day, there is continuity and a succession plan that can more easily be sold to recruits and their families.

I think Meyer is 50/50 on wanting to continue....this year has been hell from a media perspective. Just being targeted unrelentingly as if he actually abused women. I don't think he or Shelly really think it's worth it at this point. At the same time, he has a roster of 85 players and promises to those guys and their families. Staying through 2019 is a decent compromise. The current freshman and sophomores get 1 more year under Meyer, and then it's transitioned over to Day with largely the same coaching staff intact.

And in theory....if things go off-track, Meyer could always be asked to come back after a year or two away. My biggest concern with Day taking over is actually having Meyer's shadow over his shoulder after Urban has already shown a penchant for wanting to come back after stepping away.

This is basically the Lincoln Riley method.....I don't have any issue with it. Opening up a coaching search would create a lot of instability IMO.

My comment is simply on the timing.

Because that's when coaching changes happen and everyone is going to be wondering what Day is doing....

This is a reasonable take, but I don't see Urban announcing to the world in a few days that 2019 will be his last season. Just seems incredibly strange.

I buy Day as a succession plan, but I don't think they're going to put a date on it. Could be 2019, 2020, 2021...who knows.

 

[Best Buckeye]

Pure speculation at this time so I'm just gonna go have a beer instead of posting in this thread....Oh wait!

 

[scarletmike]

He honestly probably doesn't know. My guess is he's going to take it one year at a time and see how he feels at the end of each year.

I think this makes a lot of sense given the preseason media circus and the revelation of the cyst flaring up again. He apparently isn't too keen on going through having it drained again, so that seems to put a bit of a ticking clock on things from my perspective.

 

[billmac91]

My comment is simply on the timing.


This is a reasonable take, but I don't see Urban announcing to the world in a few days that 2019 will be his last season. Just seems incredibly strange.

I buy Day as a succession plan, but I don't think they're going to put a date on it. Could be 2019, 2020, 2021...who knows.

Because the focus needs to be on the Big 10 Championship game, not his retirement day.

After the Big 10 Championship, there is a month before their next game, whatever that game may be.

 

[BUCK3YE5]

Because the focus needs to be on the Big 10 Championship game, not his retirement day.

After the Big 10 Championship, there is a month before their next game, whatever that game may be.

Sooooooo why not wait a month? Or hell, why announce it at all?

There's just no reason for it. It can all be done privately. And that way you don't have to make up some date, you can let it happen organically.

But this is OSU and their PR is utterly pathetic so I'm sure this will be handled in the worst possible way.

 

[billmac91]

Sooooooo why not wait a month? Or hell, why announce it at all?

There's just no reason for it. It can all be done privately. And that way you don't have to make up some date, you can let it happen organically.

But this is OSU and their PR is utterly pathetic so I'm sure this will be handled in the worst possible way.

Because after the Big 10 Championship game, is heavy recruiting season. They need to be able to sell a vision to future recruits and families, and they need to be on the same page.

Meyer and Day being aligned on the timing and date will help them a great deal as they sell the vision of Ohio State football going forward.

If they don't make the announcemnt, you'll have 120 colleges trying to poach OSU recruits, telling them Meyer is going to leave at any moment, and who knows what your future will look like?? Who will your head coach be? Who will your position coach be? Are you going to to commit to an Urban Meyer offense, and they hire a pro-style coach, will your skill-set translate? Will you be in limbo? Don't take a risk with your recruitment...come play here...we're stable.

This announcement (assuming it happens) gives the current coaching staff an easier sell on the recruiting trail. It actually provides stability rather than uncertainty. And the timing makes perfect sense, when you have a month to refocus the players prior to a game in January.

 

[bukIpower]

Do you consider being upset by your main rival "fine?" What if Texas also wins the rematch tomorrow? Would that also be "fine?"

I think it's careless and lazy to judge a coach on just two seasons. We won't know what kind of coach Riley is for another few years. 11-1 is nice in a weak Big XII, but he lost the most important game of the regular season. A game he was supposed to win. (He fired his DC afterward. Mid-season. It didn't seem to help. We'll see if Urban has the stones to make changes to the defensive coaching staff in the offseason.)

Anyone who thinks Urban Fucking Meyer can be easily replaced needs to share whatever they're smoking with me.

So lets just keep going to old proven coaches?

Everyone understands your concern but if they are good they're good. Who cares about the age.

Also it's not like day has zero experience with football. We are talking about a guy who has a number of years of experience.

I am all for getting the best coach available but really there is no one at Urban's level. So unless we offer and somehow get Saban or Sweeney everyone is a Gamble

 

[BUCK3YE5]

Because after the Big 10 Championship game, is heavy recruiting season. They need to be able to sell a vision to future recruits and families, and they need to be on the same page.

Meyer and Day being aligned on the timing and date will help them a great deal as they sell the vision of Ohio State football going forward.

If they don't make the announcemnt, you'll have 120 colleges trying to poach OSU recruits, telling them Meyer is going to leave at any moment, and who knows what your future will look like?? Who will your head coach be? Who will your position coach be? Are you going to to commit to an Urban Meyer offense, and they hire a pro-style coach, will your skill-set translate? Will you be in limbo? Don't take a risk with your recruitment...come play here...we're stable.

This announcement (assuming it happens) gives the current coaching staff an easier sell on the recruiting trail. It actually provides stability rather than uncertainty. And the timing makes perfect sense, when you have a month to refocus the players prior to a game in January.

All of that shit is going to happen anyways.

Announcing it now changes absolutely nothing except bringing unwanted attention on the team as they head into their bowl game. It's unnecessary and, frankly, stupid.

 

[OhioState001]

So lets just keep going to old proven coaches?

Everyone understands your concern but if they are good they're good. Who cares about the age.

Also it's not like day has zero experience with football. We are talking about a guy who has a number of years of experience.

I am all for getting the best coach available but really there is no one at Urban's level. So unless we offer and somehow get Saban or Sweeney everyone is a Gamble

The only one who I would say that is a proven coach and not a gamble would be Chris Petersen. But he's been a west coast guy his whole life and I'm not sure he would be a good fit.

 

[TooTall]

What conference was MSU in? It wasn't a regular season game. It was a conference game, technically, literally, absolutely, totally, completely, or any other adverb you might choose to apply.

The record is for most consecutive regular season conference games.

 

[billmac91]

All of that shit is going to happen anyways.

Announcing it now changes absolutely nothing except bringing unwanted attention on the team as they head into their bowl game. It's unnecessary and, frankly, stupid.

It happens only if their is uncertainty.

I'd much rather OSU get in front of the news than be behind it. Dabo has been negatively recruiting away OSU kids for the last 3 years telling them Meyer is going to leave "very soon".

If they make the announcement, they've taken that weapon off the table. Every player/family member will know exactly what the future holds at OSU, and Meyer/Day will have an opportunity to sell that future.

If no announcement is made, every recruiting visit they have will be back-ended by a Power 5 coach saying, "you can't trust them. They're going to make changes and it could put you in a terrible position".

 

[BUCK3YE5]

It happens only if their is uncertainty.

I'd much rather OSU get in front of the news than be behind it. Dabo has been negatively recruiting away OSU kids for the last 3 years telling them Meyer is going to leave "very soon".

If they make the announcement, they've taken that weapon off the table. Every player/family member will know exactly what the future holds at OSU, and Meyer/Day will have an opportunity to sell that future.

If no announcement is made, every recruiting visit they have will be back-ended by a Power 5 coach saying, "you can't trust them. They're going to make changes and it could put you in a terrible position".

As if Ryan Day is going to stop any premier program from taking our recruits, or winning current recruiting battles. It simply just changes the argument.

"You can't trust Ryan Day, he's an unproven nobody. You don't even know what his coaching staff will look like." etc etc

What you think is a good idea is simply a lose/lose.

 

[osubartender23]

All of that shit is going to happen anyways.

Announcing it now changes absolutely nothing except bringing unwanted attention on the team as they head into their bowl game. It's unnecessary and, frankly, stupid.

The early December signing period significantly changes things so announcing it after the game wouldn’t be stupid. If it’s not announced you endure another 3-4 weeks of the media constantly talking about it which also brings unwanted attention on the team heading into the bowl game.

 

[BUCK3YE5]

The early December signing period significantly changes things so announcing it after the game wouldn’t be stupid. If it’s not announced you endure another 3-4 weeks of the media constantly talking about it which also brings unwanted attention on the team heading into the bowl game.

The media has been talking nonstop since July and nothing would stop them, including announcing Day as a successor.

 

[osubartender23]

As if Ryan Day is going to stop any premier program from taking our recruits, or winning current recruiting battles. It simply just changes the argument.

"You can't trust Ryan Day, he's an unproven nobody. You don't even know what his coaching staff will look like." etc etc

What you think is a good idea is simply a lose/lose.

. You don’t think Urban vouching for Ryan Day in a recruits home wouldn’t help keep some of these kids committed and the relationships in tact? I see other schools trying to poach recruits but not having a successor in place makes this much easier to do.