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Urban F. Meyer (Former OSU, CFB and NFL coach)

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knuckifyoubuck said:
Look, there is no one in CFB that I would take over Meyer that I can think of off the top of my head besides Nick Saban. Having said that, Urbs has some serious short comings. Namely, he sucks ass at hiring coaches. We have had some good ones, no doubt. We currently have some good ones, I believe. Neoptism nearly cost him his job, and there have been several bad hires and one glaring bad "fire" - hiring your friends and then not holding them to the same standard (or any standard, for that matter) is not fair to all the kids busting their ass in the spring and summer, all the reps, all the work and time they put in, the sacrifices to their bodies and minds - sure, they live for it - but for a coach not to give 110% back is fucking bullshit. I don't want him gone - but I would like to see him coach instead of putting his head between his knees. This guy is supposed to be a psych major? GMAFB. Put our Buckeyes in a position to be successful. He does a great job on & off the field by and large - but I don't think he's the best X's & O's coach and I'm starting to wonder if he really is the motivator/leader (above the line?) I thought he was.

For the sake of arguing just to argue:

Jim Tressel would have never had Zeke. But, we would have went from Terrelle Pryor senior year to Braxton Miller to Cardale Jones to Dwayne Haskins. Jim Tressel was built for playoffs, I always thought if some of his teams with a loss had gotten into a playoff (ND Fiesta Bowl year, Ark Fiesta Bowl year, etc.) he would have won some more hardware - basically - I felt that we were the best team in the country by the end of the year more often with Tress. Maybe its the romance and the nostalgia of that era, but adding wrinkle week after week, typically peaking in November and always saving a special something to bury the Wolverines - I think I prefer Tressel ball and the whole package over what we currently have.

I don't expect many to agree. But that's what makes the world go round. I hope Urban rights the ship, finishes this year strong and proves me wrong with a team coming together and overcoming adversity with the brotherhood as they hang a new plaque up in the north end zone this February.
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I love Tressel but no way was he winning in the playoff having to go through Saban every year. Sparty vs Bama in 2015 is a preview of what we'd have to look forward to with Tressel teams unless he changed his ways.
 
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OH10 said:
Yeah, I know it’s probably an unpopular opinion. I’m not saying Urban should be fired or pushed out. But it wouldn’t be the end of the world if he left. We’d find a good coach whose teams maybe don’t have these inexcusable lapses. And that would be a good thing.
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Yep, super easy to replace (arguably) the second best college coach of his generation, especially when you consider the bar you've set with this termination or whatever term you want to use for "allowing him to stop working his current job".

In order to improve, the next coach will need to:

- Not lose games he shouldn't :lol:
- Nothing for Michigan, there's no room to go up here
- Stop this nonsense of suffering 1 loss for each season spent at OSU. That average must be below 1.0
- Be in the playoffs most seasons
- Win the B1G most seasons


Oh, and speaking of big picture stuff, when Urban is let go (likely after a loss to UM), be sure that the appearance/momentum for you (and your rival) does not help them stockpile talent for 1.5+ years. Also make sure to magically invent a replacement for the 2+ year relationships that have now been lost with recruits, with no legendary head coach to have remained a constant during assistant coaching turnover.

Should be super easy to do. I'm sure they're already planning it.
 
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Drubuck said:
Out of you minds wanting Meyer gone. The off-season bullshit is and was a distraction. Takes longer than a few months to get past accusations and media smear no matter who you are. Issue now is in assistant coaching. Need a LB coach. Talent out the ass and position coaches aren't doing their jobs.
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I haven’t read anyone say they wanted Meyer gone. It’s just not the end of the world if he bolts. We won a national title in 2002 when we hired a coach straight out of 1-AA. In his second year. We’re fine no matter what.
 
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OH10 said:
I haven’t read anyone say they wanted Meyer gone. It’s just not the end of the world if he bolts. We won a national title in 2002 when we hired a coach straight out of 1-AA. In his second year. We’re fine no matter what.
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Tell that to F$U, Aggy, Tejas, Tenncheat, Florida, Miami, USC .... hell even scum...

College football is littered with once great programs who ran off or had a coaching great leave and never recovered....

Dont assume it can’t happen to US....shit even Bama was shitting for long while....

the game has changed, recruiting has changed so much since Tressel.. I think he’s a great coach but I dont think he would survive in today’s environment
 
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Ubran is not being let go. Harbaugh can hang 50 on us, and Urban is not being let go. Believe it or not, the same forces within the university who felt that Urban shouldn't walk away from the Zack Smith fiasco with only a slap on the wrist are the same forces who don't believe a football coach should be fired after one disappointing 2 or 3 loss season. Both scenarios are viewed as showing that the football tail wags the university dog.

Now, I'm of the opinion that--for whatever reasons you want to think are behind it--Urban is going to quit at the end of the year of his own volition, but he's not going to be pushed out.
 
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OH10 said:
Huh? We’ve been to the playoffs twice. National title game once.
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N/A - 2012
5 yrs - 13, 14, 15, 16, 17
TBD - 18

2 of 5 = Meyer
3 of 5 = "most" seasons = improvement by easily found heir
3 of 6 = Meyer's playoff berths (and 2 NC berths, likely another win) if Gene didn't protect the 6-6 bowl
For comparison’s sake, Tressel went to the national title game 3 times in 9 years.
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:lol: Yeah, because that went well. Also, nothing about that 3rd trip was earned (and that showed in the outcome). No one deserved it that season.
People act like Urban’s success is impossible to replicate. It’s not.
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You continue to confuse potential with simplicity.
 
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AuTX Buckeye said:
Tell that to F$U, Aggy, Tejas, Tenncheat, Florida, Miami, USC .... hell even scum...

College football is littered with once great programs who ran off or had a coaching great leave and never recovered....

Dont assume it can’t happen to US....shit even Bama was shitting for long while....

the game has changed, recruiting has changed so much since Tressel.. I think he’s a great coach but I dont think he would survive in today’s environment
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This ^ was my fear during all the B.S. w McMurphy. Urbs leaves to Notre Dame/USC/wherever because why does he & his family need this shit? And we will make a bad hire and be an asshair away from becoming like those programs you listed.
 
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Not bad for a bunch of Ohio boys, and a majority of 3/4 stars and the recruiting rules on class size:

Year School G W L T Pct SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Post Bowl Notes
2005 Ohio State 12 10 2 0 .833 22.97 8.89 6 4 4 Fiesta Bowl-W
2006 Ohio State 13 12 1 0 .923 18.76 2.07 1 1 2 BCS Championship-L
2007 Ohio State 13 11 2 0 .846 14.84 0.53 11 1 5 BCS Championship-L
2008 Ohio State 13 10 3 0 .769 13.94 3.87 2 2 9 Fiesta Bowl-L
2009 Ohio State 13 11 2 0 .846 14.71 1.71 6 5 5 Rose Bowl-W
2010 Ohio State 13 12 1 0 .923 17.37 0.75 2 1 5 Sugar Bowl-W record adjusted to 0-0-0 by NCAA


2012 Ohio State 12 12 0 0 1.000 13.81 0.89 18 3 3
2013 Ohio State 14 12 2 0 .857 15.65 1.43 2 2 12 Orange Bowl-L
2014 Ohio State 15 14 1 0 .933 20.44 5.17 5 1 1 Sugar Bowl-W, College Football Championship-W
2015 Ohio State 13 12 1 0 .923 20.73 3.81 1 1 4 Fiesta Bowl-W
2016 Ohio State 13 11 2 0 .846 18.82 6.59 6 2 6 Fiesta Bowl-L
2017 Ohio State 14 12 2 0 .857 21.82 7.89 2 2 5 Cotton Bowl-W
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Now, I'm of the opinion that--for whatever reasons you want to think are behind it--Urban is going to quit at the end of the year of his own volition, but he's not going to be pushed out.
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If he quits it will be akin to being pushed out due to all the false narrative and lack of institutional support from Smith and Drake.
 
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knuckifyoubuck said:
This ^ was my fear during all the B.S. w McMurphy. Urbs leaves to Notre Dame/USC/wherever because why does he & his family need this shit? And we will make a bad hire and be an asshair away from becoming like those programs you listed.
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The problem is that he's going to have to deal with oversight by any university and be held accountable by it for his screw ups unless he goes back to the SEC or maybe Clemson or FSU. Do you think Notre Dame or USC or Washington or UCLA would have just buried the Zack Smith fiasco and patted Urban's head and told him he's the bestest guy in the world. OK, maybe Notre Dame would have, but that job's definitely not open for a few years if Kelly makes the playoffs.
 
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buckeyebri said:
If he quits it will be akin to being pushed out due to all the false narrative and lack of institutional support from Smith and Drake.
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Scew that. He fucked up with his nepotism in bringing Zack Smith to Columbus and then keeping him on staff, and it blew up in the university's face. I don't think he deserved to be fired, but he deserved to be punished. If his ego is too big to deal with that, then good riddance. Let him do the health problem shuffle out of town.
 
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"Yeah, I know it’s probably an unpopular opinion. I’m not saying Urban should be fired or pushed out. But it wouldn’t be the end of the world if he left. We’d find a good coach whose teams maybe don’t have these inexcusable lapses. And that would be a good thing."

Jesus Christ, Meyer is in the argument for the greatest coach in the history of modern era football. His win % suggest this.

We have become incredibly spoiled under Tressel & Meyer, Basically every tier 1 program has gone thru a significant recession not us.
Given the demographic shifts it is bordering on miraculous.

We should all be hoping Meyer sticks for a long time.

My greatest fear is he steps down and we promote Ryan Day and his MWAC offense to go with 0 Ohio ties.
 
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