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OSU_Buckguy
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am i the only one here who is looking at the ttun game and not at all feeling optimistic? sure, the last saturday in november is a long way away, but when i look at what ttun is returning and what they are adding and what we have lost, i'm seeing this game as a likely loss. especially on defense, they will be stacked. their defensive line versus our offensive line brings up memories of 41-14.
if harbaugh gets o'korn to play like (or better than) he did during his freshman season, then i think ttun will truly be a title contender.
if harbaugh gets o'korn to play like (or better than) he did during his freshman season, then i think ttun will truly be a title contender.
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If this game was in September i would agree with you. My hope is that by the end of the season we would have jelled to a point were our talent advantage will take over.....
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This is indeed a concern.
What is ttun returning that is so great?
You might not remember this because February was so long ago, but Ohio State actually had a better recruiting class than Michigan. By all metrics according to all major recruiting services. In other words, we added more than they did.
Shirley, you can't be serious....
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OSU_Buckguy
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i'm not concerned about what is great but instead about what should/may cause the most problems for ohio state. that being stated, lewis, butt, and peppers have shown to possess the talent to be considered "great" by the end of november. sure, peppers' cover skills aren't the best, but the linebacker/safety spot will serve him and their defense well.
moreover, their defensive line may be the best in the nation or at least in the top 3, especially with the addition of rashan gary. against a young offensive line (yes, i understand that a line is no longer that young 12 games into the season), this will be a considerable problem if ohio state's offensive line doesn't show adequate improvement or has injuries. compounding that possible problem is that we likely won't have a back as talented and dangerous as elliott, hyde, or beanie. if the backfield is more like herron/saine, will that be enough? let's hope that our inexperienced (but talented) receiving corps will be a consistent threat.
on the other hand, ttun won't need to fill in nearly as many spots, whereas ohio state will have the most inexperienced team in the nation.
also, per 247 for 2016, each school had 1 five-star, whereas ttun had 14 four-stars to osu's 17. the gap between the two schools' 2016 class wasn't sizable. bolstering your point, however, is that the 2015 classes show a sizable gap in osu's favor.
no, i don't think that will be the score we'll see this season. but i do think that ttun's defensive line (and their defense overall) portends to be outstanding and i do think that their defensive line will give us fits. i don't see anyone having a better de trio than wormley, charlton, and gary. throw in glasgow (who didn't play against us) at nt along with hurst and that's an exceptional lineup.
finally, don brown has proven to be a very good defensive coordinator.
the early line is osu +4 or 5. i think that's generous.
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OSU_Buckguy
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re-reading my post, i agree that i exaggerated a bit by stating that i'm "not at all optimistic." i am optimistic. the talent and the coaching and the history under meyer are all the proof i need to know that it would be foolish of me to expect a loss. i guess what i'm getting at is that i have read far less concern about the game from our fans than i think the match-up will merit.
i am interested to read about the team's temperament and cohesion in fall camp. more specifically, i'm looking forward to reading about how the offensive line, running backs, and receivers fare under warriner and beck. i think the defense will be fine as long as the llne is producing. fortunately, larry johnson knows what he's doing.
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gregorylee
I'd rather be napping!!
I still hate that fat fuck, but that was damn funny.
[Mark May]. Am I going to have to start liking this fat fuck?
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Kalis. Still a big plus for Ohio state.
Their running game still leaves much to be desired, as does Wilton Speight if he keeps the job.
Also a grossly overlooked hole on their roster is fullback. Houma was a beast and they don't seem to have a clear replacement for him. They can probably find a fullback ball carrier but who is going to set the tone as a lead blocker?
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Their DL was supposedly "stacked" last year as well. Not only did OSU shred it but IU ran on them at will.
Until I see otherwise I say they have a problem with the spread. Probably because, true to historical scUM thinking, they have built a defense to stop their own offense.
and don't forget LB play. Major concern for them, as is a first year starting QB, non existent run game and OL.
and The Game is in Columbus
and Urban Meyer
Until I see otherwise I say they have a problem with the spread. Probably because, true to historical scUM thinking, they have built a defense to stop their own offense.
and don't forget LB play. Major concern for them, as is a first year starting QB, non existent run game and OL.
and The Game is in Columbus
and Urban Meyer
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Exactly! Urban is a master at finding mismatches and exploiting them, especially on the lines(i.e. 2006 NC). scUM can stop themselves but not speed teams in space.
I don't see the worry about scUM, I think that Harbrau will improve them, but they're not on OSU's level, IMO. Yes, they have a solid DL, but I trust the recruiting that OSU has done along the Oline, its hard to forget how much OSU continues to lose since Urban has been here, yet there is little drop off. OSU has had two former DL, use their last year of eligibility to shore up the right side of the line, and both excelled. This year, though young, we finally have solid depth at the OL and all guys that are true OL.
I still don't see the worry at RB that seems to be shown by OSU fans. Weber is a very good RB, who has vision, power, quickness and toughness to go with underrated speed. I think Dunn will be a solid compliment, that can spell him, and then throw in either Dontre or Curtis as well, and you're looking at a healthy backfield come fall that all offer different traits for the offense. We didn't know what we had coming in before Elliott, Hyde and Beanie hit the field, and they all excelled. Heck before games were played in pads, mos fans thought that Zoom would be the star and Boom would be carrying the clipboard, boy were a number of us wrong. I like what Weber brings to the table, and I haven't read anywhere that states the coaches doubting his talent and ability one bit. If the WRs can step up and make big enough plays to keep the chains moving, then I don't see how scUM keeps up.
Like @Jaxbuck stated, the spread still gives scUM fits, and moving Jabrill to LB only will make his tackling skills look worse as now he's being forced to tackle RBs closer to the LOS.
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