tOSU's BCS Bowl possibilities

[LitlBuck]

Not saying it will happen, just saying it could happen.

You are still leaving out a one loss Texas team and a one loss to Alabama team and you are really stretching it

 

[Jake]

You are still leaving out a one loss Texas team and a one loss to Alabama team and you are really stretching it

Alabama loses to Auburn and Florida.
Florida loses to Florida State then beats Alabama.
Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma, sending Texas Tech to BXII title game.
Missouri beats Tech to win BXII.
USC loses to UCLA

Penn State plays Texas in the NCG.

Not saying it will happen, just saying it could happen.

 

[LitlBuck]

My bad. Sun shining on monitor did not see Auburn and I have no excuse for Texas but how about Utah

 

[Jake]

My bad. Sun shining on monitor did not see Auburn and I have no excuse for Texas but how about Utah

Utah? In the NC game?

I don't see them as an option any more than Boise or Ball State.

 

[LitlBuck]

Utah? In the NC game?

I don't see them as an option any more than Boise or Ball State.

Stretching it with your theory your win

 

[bukIpower]

Hmmm Would it be possible for the Fiesta Bowl to take an OSU team over a USC team? I know we lost but I read on the Ozone that USC doesn't particularly travel awful well, and because tOSU does we might get a spot over them regardless. It wouldn't be the first time a lower ranked team has passed over a team ranked higher though. Just kind of throwing that out there to see what ya'll thought?!

 

[LitlBuck]

I was thinking about that a couple weeks ago and do believe that scenario could happen. It would that please the Trojan land but that would be just too bad. Plus, they might not want to lose to Texas again. They don't travel well at all but with that proximity I'm just not sure.

Hmmm Would it be possible for the Fiesta Bowl to take an OSU team over a USC team?

 

[JXC]

Alabama loses to Auburn and Florida.
Florida loses to Florida State then beats Alabama.
Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma, sending Texas Tech to BXII title game.
Missouri beats Tech to win BXII.
USC loses to UCLA

Penn State plays Texas in the NCG.

Not saying it will happen, just saying it could happen.

I'm not so sure that it wouldn't be Texas vs. Utah in this situation. Utah is already ahead of Penn State in the BCS standings. Utah will always be ahead of Penn State in the computer ratings, since neither team played another game. I really don't think Penn State can jump ahead of Utah. Sure the voters can vote Penn State #2 and Utah #3...but there are going to be some that vote Utah ahead of Penn State...whereas the computers are definitely going to have Utah higher than Penn State, some may have Utah ahead of Texas too, as one already does. Penn State's computer ranking is a problem. One computer even has them ranked below Ohio State. It woudl be one of those situations where the computers would be so different than the polls, that Utah would likely get the nod over Penn State because of it. None of this is going to happen though, and we will never know...but right now Utah is in better position than Penn State, and rightfully so, they both played similar schedules...both beating Michigan and Oregon State, Utah has TCU and BYU, and Penn State has Ohio State and MSU. Sure...the creampuffs that Utah played where more creamy than the ones Penn State played...but a creampuff is a creampuff, I don't see the difference bewteen beating the 80th ranked team and the 110th ranked team. But Penn State has that loss...and Utah doesn't. Maybe Penn State played a few more middle of the road teams, but they also lost...and that's not good. There really is ZERO chance of Penn State going to the NC game. Ball State has no quality wins...whether u like it or not, Utah actually does.


It's funny...there are three teams that are FOR SURE in the BCS...Penn State, Utah and Cincinnati. There is NOBODY would have guessed those would be the first three teams to be assured of a BCS spot...hell, almost everybody had NONE of those three teams in the BCS at all.

 

[Jake]

Hmmm Would it be possible for the Fiesta Bowl to take an OSU team over a USC team? I know we lost but I read on the Ozone that USC doesn't particularly travel awful well, and because tOSU does we might get a spot over them regardless. It wouldn't be the first time a lower ranked team has passed over a team ranked higher though. Just kind of throwing that out there to see what ya'll thought?!

I highly doubt it, and I would be embarrassed if it happened because it would be like a Notre Dame bid - getting in because of money, not performance. We do not deserve an at large bid ahead of USC under any circumstances.

 

[bukIpower]

I highly doubt it, and I would be embarrassed if it happened because it would be like a Notre Dame bid - getting in because of money, not performance. We do not deserve an at large bid ahead of USC under any circumstances.

100% agree. Funny thing is if Oregon State wins and we don't get a BCS bowl i'm going to probably be [censored]ED. However, if we'd just beat PSU then this wouldn't be an Issue. We had them at night, at home and couldn't finish them off. It would be a straight gift if we went to a BCS bowl, but it would also be yet ANOTHER chance for us to right the ship against good teams.

 

[lvbuckeye]

I'll agree with that.. Talent is more spread out but is it enough to make a a BYU, TCU, Utah, and Ball state competitive with the big boys all in 1 year? I don't know and we will never know. In the meantime, Im forced to watch a Georgia vs. Hawaii game in most cases. I pray that i see a Boise State vs. Oklahoma type game but chances are your not going to see that happen too often.

uh, what? mid-majors are 2-1 in BCS games. Hawaii was the lone dud.

reality > whatever it is that you're smoking.

 

[lvbuckeye]

True...Let me ask ya this..Most of these losses have probably occurred during the first 3 weeks or so of the football season..Probably playing them before a big game more than likely. Lets be honest..Even the big boys have let downs. Those teams you mentioned texas tech, wisconsin, penn state, oklahoma, and so on..Lets say we tell those teams that they have can win the national title against Akron the 3rd week of the year. Now tell me how often those games are going to be lost now by big teams. True, a loss is a loss but I would like to see the overall record of mac type teams or wac or whatever vs. big time schools. True they have upset a number of them but whats the win loss record of those type of matchups (look at the big picture). This debate has too many sides to argue from.. I can see your point though for sure

the Mountain West is 5-1 against the Pac Ten this year.

 

[lvbuckeye]

Okay...So giving Utah a shot and Ball State a shot at the title....So if you decide to do that then are we going to give a shot everytime one of these teams go undefeated? We may never see a true national championship type game ever again with that logic. There is a reason these teams like Utah and Ball State go undefeated. They are clearly better than their schedule, which means they play no one. Utah played no one this year. The one team that should have beaten them was terrible (michigan).

Comparing Ohio State of 2002 is not a good example....Big time program playing a big time schedule that year with solid teams on there.

Utah is 3-0 against top 25 teams. Penn State is 3-0 against top 25 teams.

no offense, but you need to STFU about Utah. you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Oneshot]

I just want to point out that lvbuckeye just clownstomped and apefucked all over elephant.

 

[OregonBuckeye]

I just want to point out that lvbuckeye just clownstomped and apefucked all over elephant.

You been hanging out with Mili lately?