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tOSU's BCS Bowl possibilities

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scarletngray;1341956; said:
Both our regular seasons are over and so there is absolutely no reason why we would jump over Boise State. At the same time, I would be very surprised to see the Fiesta or Sugar Bowls selecting Boise State ahead of us. I'm not sure how it will all work out but I wonder if Boise will end up playing in the Orange Bowl against the winner of Va Tech and Boston College?

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I've got to think it will be Cincy playing in that game. Boise State gets left out.
 
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Since there were no big upsets among the BCS contenders the last couple of days, things have become clearer. The BCS standings tomorrow evening will determine whether Texas or Oklahoma faces Mizzou in the Big 12 CCG.

USC is not yet guaranteed the Pac-10's automatic bid after Oregon State's loss, they still need to beat UCLA to wrap that up.

Assuming USC will beat UCLA, they will play Penn State in the Rose Bowl. USC has no realistic chance to jump over the Florida-Alabama winner or both Texas and Oklahoma, and they would have to jump 2 of those 3 to reach the title game.

That means these would be the 10 BCS bids:
6 Conference champions
Utah - automatic as the highest non-BCS team in the top-12
2nd SEC team (CCG loser)
2nd Big 12 team (Texas or Oklahoma)
1 more at-large team : Ohio State would be chosen over Boise St.

The selection process should be something like this:

BCS Title Game (#1-#2): Alabama-Florida winner vs. a Big 12 team
Rose Bowl: Penn State vs. USC (assuming they beat UCLA)
Orange Bowl automatic: ACC Champ: Va Tech-Boston College CCG winner
Sugar Bowl replacement pick: Alabama-Florida loser
Fiesta Bowl replacement pick: Texas or Oklahoma
(The last 3 picks are made in the following order):
Fiesta Bowl at-large pick: Ohio State (Utah is their other possibility)
Sugar Bowl pick: Utah (at this point, they would have to pick Cincy or Utah - if the Fiesta surprises by taking Utah, the Sugar would take tOSU)
Orange Bowl pick: Cincinnati/Utah - whichever team is left must be selected to face the ACC Champ

If Missouri wins the Big 12 CCG, they would get the Fiesta Bowl bid instead of either Texas-Oklahoma (whichever one that didn't play Mizzou would probably end up #2 in the BCS and make the Title Game).
 
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BB73;1341983; said:
Since there were no big upsets among the BCS contenders the last couple of days, things have become clearer. The BCS standings tomorrow evening will determine whether Texas or Oklahoma faces Mizzou in the Big 12 CCG.

USC is not yet guaranteed the Pac-10's automatic bid after Oregon State's loss, they still need to beat UCLA to wrap that up.

Assuming USC will beat UCLA, they will play Penn State in the Rose Bowl. USC has no realistic chance to jump over the Florida-Alabama winner or both Texas and Oklahoma, and they would have to jump 2 of those 3 to reach the title game.

That means these would be the 10 BCS bids:
6 Conference champions
Utah - automatic as the highest non-BCS team in the top-12
2nd SEC team (CCG loser)
2nd Big 12 team (Texas or Oklahoma)
1 more at-large team : Ohio State would be chosen over Boise St.

The selection process should be something like this:

BCS Title Game (#1-#2): Alabama-Florida winner vs. a Big 12 team
Rose Bowl: Penn State vs. USC (assuming they beat UCLA)
Orange Bowl automatic: ACC Champ: Va Tech-Boston College CCG winner
Sugar Bowl replacement pick: Alabama-Florida loser
Fiesta Bowl replacement pick: Texas or Oklahoma
(The last 3 picks are made in the following order):
Fiesta Bowl at-large pick: Ohio State (Utah is their other possibility)
Sugar Bowl pick: Utah (at this point, they would have to pick Cincy or Utah - if the Fiesta surprises by taking Utah, the Sugar would take tOSU)
Orange Bowl pick: Cincinnati/Utah - whichever team is left must be selected to face the ACC Champ

If Missouri wins the Big 12 CCG, they would get the Fiesta Bowl bid instead of either Texas-Oklahoma (whichever one that didn't play Mizzou would probably end up #2 in the BCS and make the Title Game).
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It's funny... I wouldn't mind seeing OSU matched up against Texas... The one mobile QB they played, they struggled with a bit in Baylor. I also haven't seen Texas take on a RB as dynamic as Beanie Wells... It would make for an interesting matchup...
 
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The laughter and jokes were abundant after somebody in the sports bar mentioned the Buckeyes tonight. Another chance to silence that laughter. The guy next to me acted like I had told him I was an alien from mars when I predicted a Texas-Ohio St Fiesta Bowl after Oregon put the game away. "Haha, Ohio State in the Fiesta! (surely you jest!!)" He seemed to have all the other BCS scenarios figured out. No respect, I tell ya.

It will be a mind-numbing shootout if TX or OK play FL. USC-FL would possibly involve some defense. But obviously AL should put up a good fight next saturday so I'm not counting them out.
 
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Gatorubet;1342018; said:
Your Constitution toward Florida's defense is weak. :shake:
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Their D has had a great year, but I think TX/OK could handle them. Still, I think FL would probably play well enough defensively to win by more than a touchdown. Watching Big12 games often feels like watching basketball, and yes due to weak constitution, it can induce queasiness. Car sickness isn't limited to riding on curvy roads.
 
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my constitution for reading bb's novel is weak. i've been at the oregon bar in NYC all night and been told how much we don't deserve a BCS spot. regardless, is it possible that we get the sugar vs cincinnati? i think that would be awesome. a bunch of ohio boys in new orleans!!! let me know in black and white what our chances are. sorry i can't read right now
 
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During the Cooper years, whether deserved or not, Ohio State gained a reputation as a team that beat up on weak teams and then choked at the end of the year. The team that could not win the big game. It didn't matter when we blew out Notre Dame in the mid-90s because everyone "knew" that we would end our year with a loss.

Then, Tressel came in with his 310 days speech, we started winning bowl games, and we were back in the national championship game hunt every year again. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. You have this kind of success, your recruiting potential improves, you get better classes, and you win.

Like it or not, we have the reputation of being unable to win big games again. I am taking a longer term view of this. I'd rather win a bowl game outside the BCS than lose yet another high profile game. It's not about being afraid, it's about being realistic.

How many posters here observed that this team was lacked emotional strength during the year? Was this team really only three points worse than Notre Dame (against USC)? This team also needs to win a bowl game right now.

Our NC opportunities this year died realistically in LA. I am more interested in the effects of a bowl win on the team's opening next year and a potential run on the NC, then and in 2010, than whether we get into a BCS bowl this year, if it means the chances of losing increase considerably. I just think we need a win right now, not only for public opinion and the pollsters, but also for the way this team thinks about themselves.
 
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Steve19;1341096; said:


| 99. Alabama (434,668,470) |
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just thought i'd point that out. still think Utah doesn't deserve to get in?

and how in hell does USC's schedule rank 32nd?


at any rate, according to the NCAA, USC's schedule rates 71st, Bama's 68th, and Utah's 63rd... fwiw...

might as well continue. Cincy's schedule rates 53rd according to the NCAA, Boston College and Vatech rate 31 and 23 respectively, Utah is at 63, Boise St is 72, Penn State comes in tied with Bama at 68, Oklahoma is #1, Texas is #6, and the Buckeyes come in at #11...
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1342016; said:
ESPN/ABC are on the Pick Boise/Diss Ohio State campaign. I really really really hate that network.
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I don't think any bowl selection committee will care too much what the Pick Boise campaign thinks.
The committees understand their business and have an agenda:
Pull shares of tv viewership in prime time slots and put fans in the stadium seats, area restaurants, hotels, amusements, and bars.
There is a stigma attached to empty seats in a BCS game.
It is interesting that biased announcers are trying to dispute Boise's reputation for a noisy but notoriously small fan base.
Here's the facts about how Boise shows up and travels:
Boise's home attendance for their "big games":
Fresno State 32,400, Utah State 32,171, Hawaii 32,300
How do they travel?
Total attendance at Nevada 27K,
at in state Idaho 17K :sleep1:,
at Oregon 58K (Oregon averages 58K+ on the year)
at New Mexico State 15K,
at San Jose State 26k,

Contrary to the pick Boise campaign being propogated--for fan base and tv viewership, Boise State does not arouse national tv ratings and its fans do not travel well!
Any bowl selection committee should fear the loss of bucks from being forced to ride the Broncos.
 
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Boise State does not arouse national tv ratings and its fans do not travel well!
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You can't fly with guns and nobody leaves Idaho without 'em.

I would like to see OSU in the Cap One for two reasons.

1. Chest thumping aside I would love to see the Big Ten win some Bowl games regardless of who they play. Having only one BCS team slides everybody down a notch and improves all of our match ups.

2. I, uh, already have my ticket for the Citrus Bowl.
 
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