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tOSU's BCS Bowl possibilities

IronBuckI;1336584; said:
I came away from the Oklahoma-Texas game thinking that Oklahoma was the best team, despite the loss. Texas played out of their minds in that game and pulled out the win, but I think that the better team lost in both of Texas' biggest games.

Regardless of the merits of anyone's personal opinions, the scoreboard still and always will provide the best and most consistent arbitration as to who was the better team.
 
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Tresselbeliever;1336618; said:
Regardless of the merits of anyone's personal opinions, the scoreboard still and always will provide the best and most consistent arbitration as to who was the better team.

i agree with this in principle, and anyone who watched that game would tell you that texas' defense looked incredible during that game (even if they did give up like 35 points). that's more a testament to oklahoma's offense than anything though; the sooners are averaging over 52 points a game, which is flat out insane no matter how crappy the defenses in your conference are. and i don't think the big 12 defenses are THAT bad.

plus, with the way college football is these days, who knows how good anyone is week to week?
 
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Electron Boy;1336633; said:
i agree with this in principle, and anyone who watched that game would tell you that texas' defense looked incredible during that game (even if they did give up like 35 points). that's more a testament to oklahoma's offense than anything though; the sooners are averaging over 52 points a game, which is flat out insane no matter how crappy the defenses in your conference are. and i don't think the big 12 defenses are THAT bad.

plus, with the way college football is these days, who knows how good anyone is week to week?

The experience of OU's vaulted offense vs. good out of conference teams, heck, any ooc teams, has been indefensible. They lost 55 to 19 against SC in '05, and that team was considered even more high powered than this current one. I just don't think the B12 offenses are that good.
 
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Tresselbeliever;1336638; said:
The experience of OU's vaulted offense vs. good out of conference teams, heck, any ooc teams, has been indefensible. They lost 55 to 19 against SC in '05, and that team was considered even more high powered than this current one. I just don't think the B12 offenses are that good.


i agree somewhat when it comes to texas and texas tech, but oklahoma this year is extremely balanced with a ton of weapons. bradford alone is a nightmare, plus they've got two backs with nearly 1000 yards each.

i'll grant that you could almost say the exact same thing about them last year before they got skunked by WV, but having watched them play last year versus this year, they don't seem to be the same kind of team. i guess we'll find out next week in the okie state game though, that'll be a very interesting game to watch.
 
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FWBuckeye;1336611; said:
If OK State beats Oklahoma, Tech goes to the Big 12 title game because of the head to head matchup vs. Texas. If that scenario happens and Tech wins the Big 12 title game, I wonder if they will jolt up to #2 in the polls/BCS or will Texas go to the #2 spot. Or even a 1-loss Alabama in a rematch with Florida in the national title game. (of course assuming Florida beats Alabama in the SEC title game)

My dream scenario for havoc:

FSU beats Florida this weekend, and Florida goes on to beat Bama in the SEC Title game.

Okie State beats Oklahoma allowing Tech into the Big 12 title game. Even if Oklahoma wins this weekend and makes it over Tech, I hope Missouri really jacks things up and wins the Big 12 title game.

As much as I hate Chuck Weiss, it'd be sweet to see USC lose another game. Maybe UCLA or Notre Dame can further complicate things.

I guess after all of that, it would leave PSU-Texas?

This is just a dream scenario for chaos. I doubt any of this happens....with exception to FSU over UF. FSU is going to shock the world Saturday. :)
 
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Texas should thank their lucky stars that OU LB went down, as his injury ushered in a huge boost in offensive production, IIRC.
FWBuckeye;1336615; said:
So you think it would be Florida/Texas in the national title game without Texas winning it's conference?
Texas Tech was absolutely slaughtered. That is a far more substantial portion of their resume than Texas' loss, which was a quality loss and a last second one at that.

Yes, Texas would stay ahead of TT in the polls.
 
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Electron Boy;1336652; said:
i agree somewhat when it comes to texas and texas tech, but oklahoma this year is extremely balanced with a ton of weapons. bradford alone is a nightmare, plus they've got two backs with nearly 1000 yards each.

i'll grant that you could almost say the exact same thing about them last year before they got skunked by WV, but having watched them play last year versus this year, they don't seem to be the same kind of team. i guess we'll find out next week in the okie state game though, that'll be a very interesting game to watch.

see the '04 version of OU. That team had 3 heismans playing on offense....
 
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Well, if we're getting crazy...

Not for the Bucks, but my dream Bowl-pocalypse would be:


  • Oregon State winning out.
  • FSU beating UF (trust me, GUB, I know this is far fetched), and UF pounding Bama.
  • Oklahoma beating T. Boone Pickens University, but losing to Mizzou.

Leaving us with a U$C and Texas/Tech final game, where neither team has won their own conference.

Of course, I also am aware that this might also open the door for PSU to play in the final- and the Bucks to get a trip to Pasadena (where I've already got connections for tickets). :)

A guy can dream, right?
 
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I'm not pulling for the beavers, they very well might be playing for our BCS spot. I wanna see OSU vs Texas and Penn State vs USC realistically in the BCS. I am confident in Ohio State and the Big 10 this bowl season, and i want to see them play top competition. I feel that this Ohio State team is playing as well as the top teams in the country at this point and i want them to play a top ranked opponent to finish the season amongst the elite. Think about it, we could be playing a Texas team that got Screwed over by the system and are the team left out of the championship game controversialy, a team that many will feel should be in the NC game. We can beat texas, we've beat them before and should have beat their best team they've had under Brown. This season is no different. If Oregon beats Oregon State then the odds are there will be a bowl lineup that i am very happy with.


You know what i find funny though....This entire second half of the season has consisted of tons huge matchups and great games amongst the top ranked teams. Meanwhile alabama has just been floating along at number 1 not really beating anyone good or even playing any great games since the Georga win.
 
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SpurthiP;1336708; said:
Have fun at the Capital One Bowl! Beat the SEC for a change!
Thanks for well wishes, though the bowl destination hasn't been determined!

That avatar - "Goodbye Buckeyes, hellooo heisman!" (Keith Jackson). I just lost what little sympathy (temporary insanity) I had for the skunks.
 
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Tresselbeliever;1336618; said:
Regardless of the merits of anyone's personal opinions, the scoreboard still and always will provide the best and most consistent arbitration as to who was the better team.
Unless the scoreboard can't figure it out either. Texas > Oklahoma > Texas Tech > Texas seems like rather circular argument. All that's left at this point is opinion and computer rankings.
 
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Tresselbeliever;1336677; said:
see the '04 version of OU. That team had 3 heismans playing on offense....


again, granted, but we're talking about two different teams here. that's like promising Ohio State will fold in the capital one bowl game (assuming that's where we end up) because we're 0-9 against SEC teams in bowl games. and hell, that has a lot more validity considering there's actually an example of that happening with virtually the same team.

i dunno. like i've said, i've watched oklahoma play several times this year, and they're legit. it's not the same team that couldn't deal with WV's speed. last year there were a few games when even big 12 defenses slowed them down, and that's simply not the case this year. plus essentially shutting down TTech's offense is no small feat.
 
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