tOSU's BCS Bowl possibilities

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Question...Does it really matter if we don't make the BCS? Sure i would love to play in the Rose Bowl but the BCS to me has lost its mojo. Is it that much of a honor to play in one? I mean look at it...Oregon State, Cincy, and Utah are all going to make it....Its not the best of the best anymore. We would get more out of playing Georgia than we would going to the Fiesta and playing Utah or some scrub. Look at Georgia last year...They had a fantastic year and they are honored to play..Hawaii?? This system is messed up

If we go to the Fiesta we won't be playing some scrub; we'll almost certainly be playing Texas or Oklahoma. I agree with your premise (beating Utah wouldn't prove anything, except that we really are better than scUM), but it doesn't hold true if we're competing against a top 5-10 program like Texas/Oklahoma in a BCS bowl game on national TV on Jan. 1 with a $14 payout. I think that this year, beating Texas/Oklahoma proves just as much if not more than beating UGA. We ought not buy into the stereotype that a team not named USC can't be worth a damn if they don't play in the SEC.

 

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Sneak preview of updated BCS standings:

1. Alabama
2. Texas
3. Oklahoma
4. Florida
5. USC
6. Utah
7. Texas Tech
8. Penn State
9. Boise State
10. Ohio State

ESPN - BCS standings: Week 6

I thought Oklahoma might leapfrog Texas, but that didn't happen. The big question will be what happens after next week. Texas has Texas A&M while Oklahoma has Okie State. Obviously, Oklahoma is going to get a bigger jolt in the standings if both teams win. It will be interesting to see how close Texas and Oklahoma actually are in the standings--that should tell us which team we would most likely face should we get the Fiesta.

 

[BengalsAndBucks]

The only thing that I have against in playing in the Capital One Bowl is that the payout for a non-BCS bowl it is around $4 mil and the payout for a BCS bowl is around $17 Mil. I know the money gets split up amongst our Big 10 brethren but we would clear a significant amount more money by playing in a BCS bowl and I think there is also quite a bit more prestige.

However, saying the above, if you want us to come to Orlando I guess we will.:)

This is incorrect. If a team is the first team from a conference to make a BCS bowl, they get $17 million. However, for the second team, the payout is only $4.5 million, per BCS rules. The Capital One Bowl pays out $4.25 million per team. There is only a very small difference in payout between the Fiesta and the Capital One Bowl*.

*However, this doesn't take into account that if we get into the Fiesta Bowl, the Capital One Bowl still will take a Big Ten team, (Michigan State or Northwestern), and would in the end boost the payout to the Big Ten. But, strictly in terms of how much OSU would earn for going to a BCS vs Capital One, the difference is only $250,000.

 

[schwab]

Sneak preview of updated BCS standings:



ESPN - BCS standings: Week 6

I thought Oklahoma might leapfrog Texas, but that didn't happen. The big question will be what happens after next week. Texas has Texas A&M while Oklahoma has Okie State. Obviously, Oklahoma is going to get a bigger jolt in the standings if both teams win. It will be interesting to see how close Texas and Oklahoma actually are in the standings--that should tell us which team we would most likely face should we get the Fiesta.

If Oklahoma finishes ahead of Texas in anything, then it's beyond confirmation that this is just dumb.

 

[JXC]

If Oklahoma finishes ahead of Texas in anything, then it's beyond confirmation that this is just dumb.

At first look that makes sense. But then you could say the same about having Texas ranked ahead of Texas Tech. Texas shouldn't be ranked ahead of Texas Tech. But the same can be said for Oklahoma. They shouldn't be ranked behind Texas Tech. It's a situation where the transitive property doesn't work...they all lost to each other. There are many different ways to look at it, but Oklahoma did play the toughest non-con schedule. Texas had to play the 4 top 15 teams in 4 straight games. Texas Tech has but up a ton of points this year.

 

[OH HSKR FAN]

Sooners put the clamp down on Texas Tech. Pretty good D.

Consider that it is quite possible that Texas hasn't seen a decent defense all year. I just can't believe that Texas, Oklahoma, TTech, Missouri, and Ok State have offenses that are so good that 50 points is a given. That leads me to believe that they don't play D in the Big 12. As simplistic as that sounds it is the only explanation I can come up with. And if that is the case, Texas is going to be in for a rude awakening if they get matched up against our D.

Georgia on the other hand isn't going to be surprised by anything we throw at them. Then again they don't run a spread and they aren't as good the LSU national championship team so they might not be as tough an opponent as history would lead us to believe.

 

[NightmaresDad]

At first look that makes sense. But then you could say the same about having Texas ranked ahead of Texas Tech. Texas shouldn't be ranked ahead of Texas Tech. But the same can be said for Oklahoma. They shouldn't be ranked behind Texas Tech. It's a situation where the transitive property doesn't work...they all lost to each other. There are many different ways to look at it, but Oklahoma did play the toughest non-con schedule. Texas had to play the 4 top 15 teams in 4 straight games. Texas Tech has but up a ton of points this year.

TX didn't get creamed by more than 40 points.

They all lost to each other, as you say. Which one was the only team of the three to get totally blown out? That is the team that should be ranked third of the three. Now, out of the other two, how did they do head to head?

Whichever team wins the three-way tiebreaker to play in the B12CG should be the one ranked the highest of the three by the pollsters. (seing as how none of them have any other OOC losses) If they do anything different, it wouldn't make sense.

 

[JXC]

This is incorrect. If a team is the first team from a conference to make a BCS bowl, they get $17 million. However, for the second team, the payout is only $4.5 million, per BCS rules. The Capital One Bowl pays out $4.25 million per team. There is only a very small difference in payout between the Fiesta and the Capital One Bowl*.

*However, this doesn't take into account that if we get into the Fiesta Bowl, the Capital One Bowl still will take a Big Ten team, (Michigan State or Northwestern), and would in the end boost the payout to the Big Ten. But, strictly in terms of how much OSU would earn for going to a BCS vs Capital One, the difference is only $250,000.

This is true, except there won't be a bowl elegable team from the Big Ten sitting at home either way...so the Big Ten won't get an "extra" bowl team if we make the BCS. The money difference is very small. I don't know what gets more exposure. A 1pm game on ABC on Jan 1st...or an 8pm game on Fox on Jan 5th.

New Years Day = College football. That's what people do all day. So that game is going to get watched by many many people, even just your casual sports fan. As far as the Jan 5th game. That's a Monday night. I don't know how many more viewers you'd get for that game...maybe some, but I don't know if it'd be that many.

I think it's just about a wash as far as those things are concerned. If you feel like there the Fiesta Bowl is more prestigious than the Citrius Bowl, then it makes sense to want that bowl. I just think the BCS is a crock. It isn't the best 10 teams. It isn't even the 6 conf. champs and then the 4 best teams. If that were the case, Boise State would go. Whether we play Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, or Texas Tech, I don't care. I just want to win. All 4 would be great wins for Ohio State. I don't think Fiesta vs. Citrius will have an effect on recruiting. I think winning the game might.

I want to play a big time team, and win. A win against Georgia or one of the top 3 Big XII teams would do just that.

 

[JXC]

TX didn't get creamed by more than 40 points.

They all lost to each other, as you say. Which one was the only team of the three to get totally blown out? That is the team that should be ranked third of the three. Now, out of the other two, how did they do head to head?

Whichever team wins the three-way tiebreaker to play in the B12CG should be the one ranked the highest of the three by the pollsters. (seing as how none of them have any other OOC losses) If they do anything different, it wouldn't make sense.

The three way tiebreaker is BCS rankings. So...it's up to the pollsters who gets to go to the Big XII championship. I just don't agree that the margin of victory is that big of a deal in this situation. I'm not a big margin of victory fan. But if you look at the games between the 3 teams, and just look at margin of victory, you'd have to put Oklahoma 1st, cuz there PF vs. PA in these games was higher than the other two schools.

 

[IronBuckI]

I came away from the Oklahoma-Texas game thinking that Oklahoma was the best team, despite the loss. Texas played out of their minds in that game and pulled out the win, but I think that the better team lost in both of Texas' biggest games.

 

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I came away from the Oklahoma-Texas game thinking that Oklahoma was the best team, despite the loss. Texas played out of their minds in that game and pulled out the win, but I think that the better team lost in both of Texas' biggest games.

I totally agree, but I really think both teams are top notch. I just think Oklahoma is a more complete club. I still think that if Oklahoma takes care of business against Okie State they'll pass Texas in the BCS standings.

 

[toddious]

I live in Orlando and just bought tickets to the capital one.

 

[FWBuckeye]

If OK State beats Oklahoma, Tech goes to the Big 12 title game because of the head to head matchup vs. Texas. If that scenario happens and Tech wins the Big 12 title game, I wonder if they will jolt up to #2 in the polls/BCS or will Texas go to the #2 spot. Or even a 1-loss Alabama in a rematch with Florida in the national title game. (of course assuming Florida beats Alabama in the SEC title game)

 

[jwinslow]

If OK State beats Oklahoma, Tech goes to the Big 12 title game because of the head to head matchup vs. Texas. If that scenario happens and Tech wins the Big 12 title game, I wonder if they will jolt up to #2 in the polls/BCS or will Texas go to the #2 spot. Or even a 1-loss Alabama in a rematch with Florida in the national title game. (of course assuming Florida beats Alabama in the SEC title game)

I can't fathom a reason Texas Tech would jump USC or Florida without them losing...

 

[FWBuckeye]

I can't fathom a reason Texas Tech would jump USC or Florida without them losing...

So you think it would be Florida/Texas in the national title game without Texas winning it's conference?