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tOSU's BCS Bowl possibilities

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kippy1040;1336117; said:
I saw in the Sporting News dailey link that Ohio State was projected to play Georgia in the Capital One Bowl in Orlando. Would you settle for that STeve 19 ?
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CFN also predicts that. Given our struggles with SEC teams in bowls, and given our OL struggles, even that would be a tall ask. I would hate to play Alabama in the sugar bowl. Georgia sounds like a really interesting, yet daunting, matchup.
 
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as much as i'd love to play a top flight SEC team this year, either florida or alabama would probably kick our ass. their d-lines are ridiculous and given how our o-line has performed... ugh. i dont even want to think about it. georgia is a much more favorable matchup, stafford blows hot and cold (mostly hot, although good defenses ave made him look bad at times) and the same could be said for moreno (although let's face it, he's a beast)

i think we can score on georgia, but it'd definitely be an interesting matchup. i was honestly looking forward to a rematch with LSU somehow, but that flew out the window a while ago
 
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jenkinswoody;1336136; said:
Georgia would be a good game. That being said- Oregon still has a good chance to win the Civil War though. osu is a little banged up. I wouldn't make plans for the Capital One Bowl just yet.
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+1 -- If the younger Rogers can't go in that game, I definitely like Oregon, even though it is being played at OSU. If that happens, I can't see a BCS Bowl Committee passing on a 2-loss tOSU team, given how well we travel. In such a situation, I would see these teams getting BCS births, if everything plays out as expected in conference championship games: Florida, USC, PSU, Cincy, ACC champion (BC?), Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, Utah, tOSU.

Regardless of whether we deserve it, I don't see any of the other candidate taking a BCS spot from us if OSU loses to Oregon. Boise State and/or Ball State won't get it because they won't travel like we will. No way is a second ACC or Big East team taken ahead of us, even if one finishes high enough in the BCS standings to garner consideration. And, obviously, there won't be a third team from the SEC or Big XII taken. That leaves us.

Let me point out one other thing, which is that our resume isn't really all that bad. Our two loses are a heartbreaker to the eventual Big Ten champ and an early season blowout to what would then be the Pac-10 champ, USC, a team that plenty will argue is as good as anyone in the country. And at the end of the day, even though the Big Ten is down, top to bottom I still believe it is the third best conference in the country, with quite a bit of distance between the top two--the SEC and the Big XII--and the rest of the pack. Top to bottom, we're still better than the Pac-10, IMO. And the Big XII and the SEC will get two teams in, so I suspect we will as well. You can argue both ways as to whether that last spot should go to us or BSU, but the reality of our system is that tOSU brings in the big money, and I don't think any amount of PR backlash is going to sway a BCS Bowl Committee in light of that reality.

I see the match-ups like this if OSU loses to Oregon:

BCS Championship: Florida v. Oklahoma (who I suspect will vault ahead of Texas in the BCS standings after the drubbing they just put on TTech)

Fiesta: Texas v. tOSU (Fiesta gets first dibs on replacing the contractually tied Big XII champion, and I think they'd go for this mega matchup)

Sugar: Alabama v. Utah (Sugar would jump at Alabama, and would probably be stuck with Utah, who I suspect they would take over a Cincy Big East champion)

Rose: USC v. PSU (a dream matchup for the Rose)

Orange: BC v. Cincy (or enter any other mediocre ACC team here)

I know everyone seems to want a non-BCS bowl matchup against the SEC, but I really think this is our best case scenario. Honestly, I'm not sure we'd beat UGA with our O-line play, and who knows where Beanie is going to be in terms of health come bowl season. Texas is still a mega program that's had a great year, and, despite not being an SEC program, beating them on Jan. 1 would still go a ways to restoring our national respect.
 
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texas has some holy terrors on d-line too. our secondary would definitely make mccoy work for his yards, but i think we'd have a better shot against georgia than texas.

no matter how you slice it, we're in for a challenge in a month or so
 
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Electron Boy;1336169; said:
texas has some holy terrors on d-line too. our secondary would definitely make mccoy work for his yards, but i think we'd have a better shot against georgia than texas.

no matter how you slice it, we're in for a challenge in a month or so
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Maybe you're right re: which team we'd better match up against. Here's the way I look at it though. UGA has underachieved this season. I mean, there was a large contingency that believed they were the pre-season #1. Furthermore, if we play UGA, it won't be in a BCS bowl game.

On the other hand, Texas is every bit the marque program that UGA is, has overachieved this year, has spent time as #1 fairly late in the year, and, if they don't get the nod in the Big XII title game, there will be a ton of talk about how they should have been there in place of Oklahoma since they beat Oklahoma head-to-head, and therefore should have been playing in the National Championship game. If we go out and knock off that Texas team, people will be forced to wonder if the maturation of Pryor and the improved health of Beanie Wells didn't actually mean this was a completely different team than the one that got smoked by USC earlier this season, a team that belongs in the 2009 national championship debate.

Conversely, if we beat UGA it will no doubt go a long way to rectify our image troubles against the SEC, but there will still be plenty of people who say, sure, you can beat the #3 team in the SEC (a team that was blown out by Florida and lost to the other top team, 'Bama), but you're still feeding off the mediocrity of the Big Ten, and still just a step behind the elite teams right now.

At the end of the day, I like to see tOSU playing on Jan. 1. If we can't be in the National Championship game, I want us in the Rose. If we can't be in the Rose, I want us in a BCS game. The system sucks right now, but it's the system we play with until we can score a playoff.
 
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I would like to think the University of Arizona pass defense for probably costing us a bid to a BCS bowl. If they would have beaten Oregon State, USC would have gone to the Rose and left another spot open for an at large bid.
 
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i agree, you always want to play in the most prestigious bowl game you can, no matter who your opponent is. my only hesitation with all of this is that we absolutely need a win in the bowl game this year. let's face it: we've underachieved this year. Beanie got hurt, the o-line played extremely poorly for stretches of the year, the defensive line didn't get its' act together until the last third of the season, boeckman regressed; the end result of all of his being that we haven't done anything to rebuild our national image. a BCS bowl win OR a win against the SEC would help, which is why i'm wondering about who best matches up with us.

you may have a point about texas overachieving this year though. without any real semblance of a running game outside of mccoy running draws and options they've carved up opposing secondaries pretty consistently. they played a BRUTAL midyear stretch that saw them lose to tech away on a last second td and beat oklahoma in the red river shootout. playing them would be very difficult, but you may be right about our ability to stop them versus stopping stafford and moreno simply because if we could get to mccoy and make him play poorly, it's ballgame
 
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LitlBuck;1336185; said:
I would like to think the University of Arizona pass defense for probably costing us a bid to a BCS bowl. If they would have beaten Oregon State, USC would have gone to the Rose and left another spot open for an at large bid.
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its not too late...they still have to beat oregon
 
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